Started By
Message

re: I-59/20 through downtown Birmingham completely replaced

Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36178 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

The contractor, Johnson Brothers Corp., gets a nice $15 million dollar bonus for finishing it before the end of January.


My FIL who lives in Alabama was telling me about this. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the contract called for the contractor to get something like $1 million per day for every day finished ahead of schedule but also a disincentive for a $1 million per day fine for every day running over the scheduled date of completion.

This feat simply couldn't be accomplished in Louisiana. It takes our corrupt politicians a minimum of 5-7 years just to get a project started (that's to fleece all the taxpayers to pay someone's BIL, college buddy, etc). Once started, it is a minimum of 2 years simply to just do something as relatively simple as expand 2 miles of Interstate/roads
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

I am legit surprised that they finished early. That seems to never happen.



Especially considering the major interchange a couple miles up the road was over a year late upon completion. Completely different contractors on that one I believe.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44831 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Simply amazing how they can replace and expand miles of elevated roadway through an urban setting in a year - ahead of schedule.



I drove it this weekend when it opened just to check it out. I was highly skeptical when they originally announced the plan, but they pulled it off and ahead of schedule. I'll be curious to see how this actually impacts traffic flow. They still need to repave up to the replaced bridges. They are supposed to turn the space under the bridges into some kind of greenway/community space. That's a year away.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7542 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:45 pm to
I'm curious to see the impacts on 459 tomorrow after we get past today's light traffic due to the MLK holiday. A big part of ALDOT's campaign was encouraging drivers to use 459 to navigate Birmingham as opposed to using the downtown detours.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:48 pm to
Meanwhile, it takes 1 1/2 years to widen a turn lane in Tuscaloosa.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41677 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:50 pm to
This is what happens when you have competent state transportation workers, AND competent local contractors.

In LA, we need 4 years to build an interstate exit.

Also, I noticed they were reopening lanes at 9 pm on a weekend. That would never work in LA, where apparently road builders can't work weekends and can't work in the dark. I guess they don't make lights here...

I don't think LA uses bonuses or fines either for early/late completion.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Interstate 459,


My go to when I could. I hated driving 20/59 through downtown.
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

It was a nightmare getting through there at midnight.


Glad you guys are still alive
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
38958 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

We're even supposed to get a northern bypass eventually



In the year 3535.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

I'm curious to see the impacts on 459 tomorrow after we get past today's light traffic due to the MLK holiday.



It may take a few days for that impact to be seen as people learn it's back open and re-adjust their commutes. 459 South between 280 and 65 has been a parking lot almost every afternoon since they closed the downtown section.
Posted by 99BLKBRD
Member since Mar 2015
575 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:53 pm to
459 had been a damn nightmare since the closing. I’m ecstatic it’s open again. I drive Trussville to Bessemer every day for work.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42763 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 1:53 pm to
And here in LA we were told 5-7 years for replacing a 5 mile stretch of I-10 that is not raised and has 1 over pass in an area where the houses don’t exactly but up to the interstate
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51956 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

I just want to know when and why they changed it from "20/59" to "59/20".


This has become a heated debate about which is correct or which it should be. "20/59" rolls off the tongue better, but I think "59/20" is actually correct.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:02 pm to
Tired of Tuscaloosa road construction
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51956 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

459 had been a damn nightmare since the closing. I’m ecstatic it’s open again. I drive Trussville to Bessemer every day for work.


This should help alleviate traffic issues throughout the Birmingham metro.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51956 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Especially considering the major interchange a couple miles up the road was over a year late upon completion. Completely different contractors on that one I believe.

You talking about the I-65/I-22 interchange? Yeah, I drive through there everyday and it seemed like it was never going to be completed.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44831 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

459 South between 280 and 65 has been a parking lot almost every afternoon since they closed the downtown section.



So glad I don't hit this. I only have a 9 mile commute and it's all on 459. I can't wait to have it get back to normal (not that it was really bad for me).
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

You talking about the I-65/I-22 interchange?



That's the one. I almost want to say they were nearly 2 years late on it, but I could be wrong.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59347 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:10 pm to
quote:

God could you imagine Baton Rouge with I10 shut down and nothing but detours to get through


That wouldn't be possible so it's kind of a bad comparison. It's not fun to imagine either
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51956 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

That's the one. I almost want to say they were nearly 2 years late on it, but I could be wrong.


It was something like that I believe. It was ridiculous. It was not as complex as the 59/20 project, but still took forever.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 2:12 pm
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram