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re: I 100% support vigilante justice and wish it were legal.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:03 am to Joshjrn
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:03 am to Joshjrn
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Again, I hear ya. See my reply to Scruffy: call your congressman; don’t bitch about the judges.
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And that’s not an utterly unreasonable position to take; the reality is that the judge can’t give them more than six months for those misdemeanors. If your remedy is to rail over liberal judges instead of calling your congressman, your ire is misplaced.
So the solution is acceptance: live with violent criminals in public spaces because maybe, possibly, statistically speaking, once in a blue moon, one of them becomes a model citizen.
The rest of us who follow the law, pay taxes, and try to live normal lives are apparently the acceptable price to pay in the name of “restorative justice.”
this won’t last.
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:05 am to Joshjrn
quote:I am not buying your viewpoint that these judges are releasing these criminals simply because of the constraints placed on them by the legislative branches.
And that’s not an utterly unreasonable position to take; the reality is that the judge can’t give them more than six months for those misdemeanors. If your remedy is to rail over liberal judges instead of calling your congressman, your ire is misplaced.
Restorative justice is rampant in the judicial system.
We do need to bring back some variation of “three strike laws” and mandatory minimums of 20 years for violence involving firearms.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:10 am to Geekboy
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Joao Ferreira da Silva, 46, had been serving a 42-year sentence for the rape and murder of nine-year-old Bruno Aparecido dos Santos. But within hours of freedom, Ferreira da Silva was slain in broad daylight in the city of Sinop, in the Brazilian state of Mato Grosso, on December 10.
So he committed the crime when he was 4?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:11 am to Scruffy
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:14 am to Klark Kent
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So the solution is acceptance: live with violent criminals in public spaces because maybe, possibly, statistically speaking, once in a blue moon, one of them becomes a model citizen. The rest of us who follow the law, pay taxes, and try to live normal lives are apparently the acceptable price to pay in the name of “restorative justice.” this won’t last.
Dude, where does this even come from
If at which point “call your congressman” has become the equivalent of “the situation is hopeless short of vigilante murder”, we’ve got problems a hell of a lot bigger than the criminal legal system.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:15 am to Geekboy
Raped and murdered a 9 year old. These two men should be celebrated
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:17 am to Klark Kent
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:22 am to Scruffy
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I am not buying your viewpoint that these judges are releasing these criminals simply because of the constraints placed on them by the legislative branches.
You don’t have much of a choice but accept it within the context of the 17 attest hypothetical we were just discussing. It’s objective reality.
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Restorative justice is rampant in the judicial system.
First, no it isn’t, because it can’t be, because by definition, “restorative justice” is outside of the legal system. It’s part of the reason the idea is so fricking stupid. Second, even if we ignore the terminology, I would again argue that it’s not actually rampant. Does it happen? Absolutely. Is it common? No. Does the media want you to rage as though it’s common? Dear god, yes.
For context, Hillar’s office initiated prosecution in nearly 24k cases in 2024. How many of those cases would you say the average person on this board who lives in Baton Rouge ever heard a single thing about?
Because the average person only hears about the unusual and/or rage bait cases, it utterly skews their perspective regarding what’s normal. I noticed that no one on this board so much as mentioned this sentencing from this week, even though Judge Marcantel gave quotes during sentencing that this board would salivate over: LINK
But this next time someone gets arrested while out on bond, it will be a five page thread decrying the “system”.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:32 am to Joshjrn
quote:Well, if they get released on bond again, yes, people should appropriately decry the system.
But this next time someone gets arrested while out on bond, it will be a five page thread decrying the “system”.
If a person commits another crime while out on bond, they should be remanded without bond.
If they are released with another bond and commit another crime, the judge that gave them that bond after the first instance should be placed in prison along side them.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:34 am to Scruffy
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Restorative justice is rampant in the judicial system.
We do need to bring back some variation of “three strike laws” and mandatory minimums of 20 years for violence involving firearms.
Indeed. Mass incarceration works, the revolving door of "no cash bond" is literally killing innocent people.
No one trusts the system, and most of us realize too many Judges are more activists than they are about the rule of law.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:35 am to Breesus
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How exactly would you write the laws to allow legal vigilante justice?
Old school deputizing. Wanted Dead or Alive.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:36 am to Scruffy
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Well, if they get released on bond again, yes, people should appropriately decry the system. If a person commits another crime while out on bond, they should be remanded without bond. If they are released with another bond and commit another crime, the judge that gave them that bond after the first instance should be placed in prison along side them.
Again, 24k prosecutions a year. Not arrests, prosecutions. How frequently is this happening such that it’s considered “common”?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:38 am to SludgeFactory
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With the rate that progressive judges release criminals like this (and worse), I wouldn't be shocked to see this type of "justice" happen more often in the future.
We'd be better off if it happened to the judges.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:39 am to Joshjrn
quote:Are we only talking about LA?
How frequently is this happening such that it’s considered “common”?
I don’t live in LA anymore.
Are you limited to only Hillar Moore?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:100%
Indeed. Mass incarceration works, the revolving door of "no cash bond" is literally killing innocent people.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:42 am to Scruffy
We tried CJ reform utilizing the revolving door and it failed spectacularly. Several long term state reps lost their seats over it.
Looked good on paper, never works in practice. Theft became institutional.
Looked good on paper, never works in practice. Theft became institutional.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:56 am to SludgeFactory
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With the rate that progressive judges release criminals
Its amazing to me to think that people agree this.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 10:58 am to Geekboy
I would play the long game for justice though, no reason to sacrifice my freedom for it
Wait a reasonable period of time, carefully plan and execute an adequate form of justice
Millions die of accidental drug overdoses, hit and runs, “suicides”
Plan it right, get justice, never sacrifice your freedom
Wait a reasonable period of time, carefully plan and execute an adequate form of justice
Millions die of accidental drug overdoses, hit and runs, “suicides”
Plan it right, get justice, never sacrifice your freedom
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:00 am to Geekboy
The only thing better than vigilante justice is jailhouse justice.
I’m in favor of both.
I’m in favor of both.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:07 am to Scruffy
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Are we only talking about LA? I don’t live in LA anymore. Are you limited to only Hillar Moore?
It’s what I’m most intimately knowledgeable about, and it’s what the majority of the people on this board cry about. I see multiple threads per month on here bitching about the 19th JDC. I don’t remember ever seeing a thread bitching about a specific state trial court district in California. Do you?
Now, are some jurisdictions better or worse than others? Of course. My point is that, if the perception on here about the 19th JDC is based on so little information, it tends to follow that the average person on here would be even less informed about other jurisdictions.
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