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re: Hypothetical mask waiver

Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:11 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58303 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:11 am to
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Could you be more of a pussy?


He could, if he wanted the government to mandate everyone wear masks because you are afraid of people not wearing masks on aisle 7. That would, indeed, solidify his standing as a pussy.
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1057 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:12 am to
Put your money where your mouth is. Get dnr In case of COVID tattooed on your face
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 10:12 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58303 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:13 am to
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but I was reading an article that said as of then, there had not been any confirmed cases where someone was infected from an asymptomatic person. I'm not saying it can't or isn't happening,


You don't have to, the WHO already did.

quote:

At one of the WHO’s thrice-weekly press briefings Monday, Van Kerkhove noted that when health officials review cases that are initially reported to be asymptomatic, “we find out that many have really mild disease.” There are some infected people who are “truly asymptomatic,” she said, but countries that are doing detailed contact tracing are “not finding secondary transmission onward” from those cases. “It’s very rare,” she said.



Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
6593 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Could you be more of a pussy?



nah, i think he has reached max level
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
Member since Jun 2013
19221 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Put your money where your mouth is. Get dnr In case of COVID tattooed on your face

Why is this the only option..?

I'm not getting a face tattoo regardless of my beliefs. Some of us actually need to hold a career.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 10:15 am
Posted by LoneStar23
USA
Member since Aug 2019
5837 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:15 am to
I’m good. I’ll keep living my life while you live in your fear mongering world
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
1057 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:17 am to
Change the parameters.

You don’t have to wear a mask but your grandma down at the old folks home loses her hospital bed.

It’s the same idea. If you can’t wear a Mask to help our vulnerable family members maybe the community should forfeit responsibility for yours
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41891 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:18 am to
Why isn't grandma wearing a mask?
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:18 am to
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The point is that masks are a small price to pay to help the community control the spread.



People who dont want Covid shouldnt be "out in the community"

They should be behind a locked door at home not coming out

Im not wearing a mask to protect someone that doesnt want to protect themselves.

frick that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:19 am to
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I don't see how a mask being worn is more effective at keeping stuff from leaving me, than it is from me breathing things in. I understand that if i'm wearing a mask and somebody isn't wearing one, then yes me wearing one if I think I may be infected, would be protecting them by at least some measurable degree, debatable on how much that degree is. If them wearing a mask doesn't provide them the same protection against getting something, as it does if I am wearing the mask, then me wearing the mask isn't actually doing anything to protect them.

i imagine it has to do with the physics of how it's released

like i said, it's about viral load. we know 100% that larger viral loads of CV19 = worse effects and more infections

i think your argument may make more sense if you had 2 people actively coughing at each other a short distance away from each other, but typically that isn't the case of how people live their lives (especially now). the initial blocking disperses more of the load into the outdoors and into UV, etc, which automatically decreases the load in the surrounding area. that decreases the chance of infection and, more importantly, it severely decreases the chance of major infection. think of it like a head start

the particulates you encounter living a normal live (1) have already been initially dispersed (however it happened) and (2) have had to deal natural elements (like UV and other variables). the problem with the masks people are wearing is the particulates are smaller than the holes. now will some be blocked? sure, but it's not like some seal like an N95 mask
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58303 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:19 am to
quote:

You don’t have to wear a mask but your grandma down at the old folks home loses her hospital bed.



You are terrible at making logical arguments. I think you need to calm down.

quote:

If you can’t wear a Mask to help our vulnerable family members


What does me not wearing a mask have to do with your family members. If you are so concerned, either stay home, or wear a mask.

quote:

maybe the community should forfeit responsibility for yours


If you're argument was logical at all, you could say this without it being hysterical.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 10:20 am
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58303 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:20 am to
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i imagine it has to do with the physics of how it's released


You would be wrong. Go read Broome's EO. Once done, name 1 thing in that EO that prevents the spread of CV.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
11360 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:21 am to
No, just not going to make me feel guilty about something I don’t want to do
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:21 am to
quote:

if he wanted the government to mandate

i don't think George is talking about government mandates

i'm certainly not
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Go read Broome's EO.

no because i'm not talking about government mandates
Posted by deltadon
River City
Member since Oct 2016
327 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:22 am to
This is dumb. Also if you signed such a waiver , then why do you think the powers that be would assume you didn’t have covid for a non covid related issue?


The mask thing is political. No one is changing their opinions based on reporting or social media post. Let it be.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14872 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:23 am to
quote:

If you could sign a waiver so that you did not have to wear a mask, but you were no longer able to receive any healthcare for covid issues would you sign?




Why would anyone do that- especially when they are currently telling us a mask won't protect the individual wearing it from personal exposure? That's idiotic.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69600 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:25 am to
Not talking about a government mandate.

I do enjoy how these threads always turn into “protecting grandma and grandpa” without thinking about other immunodeficient populations like pregnant women.

But yeah, frick those women too, I guess?
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
6593 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:26 am to
quote:

People who dont want Covid shouldnt be "out in the community"


Because some of us are actually necessary to function as a society and need to work to make sure things continue. No choice but to be out there.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:27 am to
I am at no more risk from a Covid infection than from driving a car.

Expecting me to sign a waiver implies reckless behavior on my part.

The answer is "no".
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