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Hypothetical mask waiver
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:26 am
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:26 am
If you could sign a waiver so that you did not have to wear a mask, but you were no longer able to receive any healthcare for covid issues would you sign?
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Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:28 am to bamaclownbaby
Of course not. Don’t not be stupid.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:28 am to bamaclownbaby
Hate the mask bullshite but that would be a terrible trade off.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:29 am to bamaclownbaby
Would it also include anyone you unknowingly infected? Not sure how your waiver would apply to them.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:29 am to bamaclownbaby
If you did that you are a moron, so I expect several posters would agree
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:29 am to bamaclownbaby
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If you could sign a waiver so that you did not have to wear a mask, but you were no longer able to receive any healthcare for covid issues would you sign?
this is the wrong way to think about it
masks aren't about you
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:38 am to bamaclownbaby
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If you could sign a waiver so that you did not have to wear a mask, but you were no longer able to receive any healthcare for covid issues would you sign?
Don't need a waiver to live my life as i see fit. Why are you begging for permission to live your life, when the government is the one limiting your God given rights, unjustly, and unlawfully? You shouldn't be begging the government for permission. Government works for you, you don't work for the government. People have forgotten that.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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masks aren't about you
Sure they are.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:43 am to TH03
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Would it also include anyone you unknowingly infected?
I’m not worried about them, just myself
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:49 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Sure they are.
masks are about decreasing viral loads in the air, which will decrease spread and/or severity of infections
they're not really a protective measure for the person wearing them, unless you're sporting N95 masks worn properly and thrown away often
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 7/2/20 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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masks are about decreasing viral loads in the air, which will decrease spread and/or severity of infections
Is this not a circular argument though? If the mask is used to decrease the viral load going out into the air, then the mask would also decrease the viral load coming into my body, regardless of what the viral load is in the air.
If the mask does not really do much to protect me from what is coming in, then it really doesn't do much to decrease the viral load in the air, either. If the mask is to protect others from me infecting them, then by its nature it has to also be able to protect me from getting infected by others, or else the first part doesn't work.
Understandably N95 masks are different.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
They are about me because it makes me uncomfortable. So frick the frick off
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:00 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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If the mask is used to decrease the viral load going out into the air, then the mask would also decrease the viral load coming into my body, regardless of what the viral load is in the air.
the problem is asymptomatic transfer or transfer with mild symptoms. hell, i imagine there are so many people acting emotionally about this there are symptomatic people out and about positive it's "just a cold" (there was a lawyer here in LC who has been accused of this)
i imagine there is a small protective measure of the masks for the wearer, but it's just on a different level than stopping the initial spread.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:01 am to WaydownSouth
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They are about me because it makes me uncomfortable. So frick the frick off
poor baby
i'm sorry your slight inconvenience is too much to adhere to personal responsibility
this reminds me of the shopping cart theory of character
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:03 am to bamaclownbaby
What if we require that if you use food stamp money for sugary foods you have to sign a waiver that the government won’t pay for treatment for your diabetes?
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 10:05 am
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:05 am to WaydownSouth
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They are about me because it makes me uncomfortable. So frick the frick off
Could you be more of a pussy?
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:05 am to SlowFlowPro
Not poor. I don’t wear one and I don’t feel bad
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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the problem is asymptomatic transfer or transfer with mild symptoms
Right now though, we don't know this is even happening though, right? It has been a few weeks, but I was reading an article that said as of then, there had not been any confirmed cases where someone was infected from an asymptomatic person. I'm not saying it can't or isn't happening, just highly unlikely that we wouldn't have had any cases like that, if it were a possibility.
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i imagine there is a small protective measure of the masks for the wearer, but it's just on a different level than stopping the initial spread.
This is the part I just can't grasp, and maybe that is just my issue with the argument that the mask is "for others". That just seems like an emotional plea to me.
I don't see how a mask being worn is more effective at keeping stuff from leaving me, than it is from me breathing things in. I understand that if i'm wearing a mask and somebody isn't wearing one, then yes me wearing one if I think I may be infected, would be protecting them by at least some measurable degree, debatable on how much that degree is. If them wearing a mask doesn't provide them the same protection against getting something, as it does if I am wearing the mask, then me wearing the mask isn't actually doing anything to protect them.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 10:10 am
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
The point is that masks are a small price to pay to help the community control the spread.
If you can’t make a sacrifice to help the community, maybe you should also give up your bed in the hospital so the community doesn’t have to waste resources on you
If you can’t make a sacrifice to help the community, maybe you should also give up your bed in the hospital so the community doesn’t have to waste resources on you
Posted on 7/2/20 at 10:09 am to escatawpabuckeye
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If you can’t make a sacrifice to help the community, maybe you should also give up your bed in the hospital so the community doesn’t have to waste resources on you
I can assure you I’m not a fat slob so I won’t need a hospital bed
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