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Hypothetical: a person hospitalized for pneumonia tests + for both cv19 AND type A flu.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:48 am
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:48 am
Would the doctors assume cv19 is the reason for the pneumonia or the flu?
Would it be counted as both a flu AND cv19 hospitalization?
Hospitals need to start preparing for this predicament, because I don’t want to see a scenario where flu season hits and people are hospitalized for it and also found to have cv19 at same time, and see an artificial rise in cv19 hospitalization
Would it be counted as both a flu AND cv19 hospitalization?
Hospitals need to start preparing for this predicament, because I don’t want to see a scenario where flu season hits and people are hospitalized for it and also found to have cv19 at same time, and see an artificial rise in cv19 hospitalization
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:49 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
All illnesses are now Covid.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:50 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Lol, come on man, you know the answer to this.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:51 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
they just need to make an ICD10 code for FLOVID
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:56 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I could not sleep last night either because of the exact same thought.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:01 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Would the doctors assume cv19 is the reason for the pneumonia or the flu?
You don’t know. Probably going to treat it the same anyway so it doesn’t really matter which caused it.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:01 am to hombreman9
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I could not sleep last night either because of the exact same thought.
Not many of us think critically on this issue like you and I, but hopefully the hospitals have done their thinking on this issue
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:04 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Not sure it matters what caused it or how it's recorded.
Would the doctors assume cv19 is the reason for the pneumonia or the flu?
quote:Probably, but again not sure it matters.
Would it be counted as both a flu AND cv19 hospitalization?
quote:It's not really a "predicament" as far as recordkeeping. It's just a matter of capacity.
Hospitals need to start preparing for this predicament
quote:Why would you characterize it as "artificial"?
because I don’t want to see a scenario where flu season hits and people are hospitalized for it and also found to have cv19 at same time, and see an artificial rise in cv19 hospitalization
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:05 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:I'm sure they have done their thinking on it as it pertains to their capacity to handle the load. You seem to be concerned with the political aspects of reporting, which I would hope docs and hospitals are NOT concerning themselves with.
Not many of us think critically on this issue like you and I, but hopefully the hospitals have done their thinking on this issue
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:05 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Not many of us think critically on this issue like you and I, but hopefully the hospitals have done their thinking on this issue
Nah, that was sarcasm. I am too over it to let it occupy any space in my head anymore.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:08 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
If test positive it's COVID.
Birx made this clear long ago.
Birx made this clear long ago.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:19 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I hit the coffee table last night with and crushed my pinkie toe and Received my positive C19 test results by email this morning.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 12:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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don’t want to see a scenario where flu season hits and people are hospitalized for it and also found to have cv19 at same time, and see an artificial rise in cv19 hospitalization
Well if they have flu and COVID how do you know what exactly is causing them to have enough respiratory distress to need to be hospitalized?
And I know AZ just mandated by Governor executive order that we (hospitals) will be required to daily report numbers of all those hospitalized with confirmed or suspected flu on top of our daily reporting of COVID numbers (which I still help to calculate/report as part of my job).
ETA: so sounds like AZ is preparing for a way to separate these two groups. But if you test positive for both...you are counted in both groups.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 9/10/20 at 1:16 pm to Centinel
Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:04 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If someone dies, it is COVID19.
Death——test- negative= COVID19
Death——test- positive- COVID19
Death—- no test- COVID19
It’s science!
Death——test- negative= COVID19
Death——test- positive- COVID19
Death—- no test- COVID19
It’s science!
Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:08 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Would the doctors assume cv19 is the reason for the pneumonia or the flu?
Covid-19 has been causing pneumonia since day 1.
Get ready for a very large number of "CovidFlu" deaths this year. The media will have a field day with this one.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
What COD would trigger the higher reimbursement from the government/ insurance company? That one will be the one the hospital uses.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Flu could cause the pneumonia. So could covid. It would be impossible to know which.
Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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and also found to have cv19 at same time, and see an artificial rise in cv19 hospitalization
Are you retarded?
You're saying reporting a guy in the hospital with covid is an "artificial" covid stat.
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 2:24 pm
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