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re: Hurricane Nate - Moving Inland - Hurricane Season Over?

Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43457 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
Any reason why models are still supporting NW movement? This storm has been going NNW all day
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
Well frick
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

They have hammered the potential for RI in the discussions and have constantly been higher than the models for intensification.



Wish more people read the discussions. Been driving this point home to friends from Mobile to NOLA and not enough have prepared for the possibility. The NHC should get kudos for the intensity forecast and RI discussions though. No doubt.



O_O

That's a big dome of really cold tops. Once again, not used to seeing that, especially in the Atlantic.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
The global models aren't budging on the LA landfall
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

GEAUXmedic

Where is that gif coming from? That's entirely different than the one I saw 15 minutes ago
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147175 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:03 pm to
quote:

Any reason why models are still supporting NW movement? This storm has been going NNW all day

high pressure that's building in over the Bahamas/FL peninsula I believe
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Where is that gif coming from? That's entirely different than the one I saw 15 minutes ago



It's the 00z CMC
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

We're talking about the rapid intensification of the storm man. Why is that so hard for you to understand?


Oh you're talking about an intensification that is not predicted anywhere. Good job jeff
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147175 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:07 pm to
holy crap... Nate went straight to Ludicrous Speed

Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

Oh you're talking about an intensification that is not predicted anywhere


Except extensively talked about as a real possibility by the National Hurricane Center for three days now.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:09 pm to
Lol

It's been less than 5% chance of over 100mph


That's a real possibility?
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21545 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

holy crap... Nate went straight to Ludicrous Speed


No, that is the air force plane, they flew all over tarnation in between center fixes

Latest drop:

Product: Air Force Vortex Message (URNT12 KNHC)
Transmitted: 7th day of the month at 3:55Z
Agency: United States Air Force
Aircraft: Lockheed WC-130J Hercules with reg. number AF98-5307
Storm Number & Year: 16 in 2017
Storm Name: Nate (flight in the North Atlantic basin)
Mission Number: 7
Observation Number: 22
A. Time of Center Fix: 7th day of the month at 3:16:30Z
B. Center Fix Coordinates: 22°26'N 86°10'W (22.4333N 86.1667W)
B. Center Fix Location: 98 statute miles (158 km) to the NNE (27°) from Cancún, Quintana Roo, Mexico.
C. Minimum Height at Standard Level: 1,323m (4,341ft) at 850mb
D. Estimated (by SFMR or visually) Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 60kts (~ 69.0mph)
E. Location of the Estimated Maximum Surface Wind Inbound: 32 nautical miles (37 statute miles) to the E (84°) of center fix
F. Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: From 152° at 89kts (From the SSE at ~ 102.4mph)
G. Location of Maximum Flight Level Wind Inbound: 29 nautical miles (33 statute miles) to the E (88°) of center fix
H. Minimum Sea Level Pressure: 988mb (29.18 inHg)
I. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Outside Eye: 17°C (63°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,521m (4,990ft)
J. Maximum Flight Level Temp & Pressure Altitude Inside Eye: 22°C (72°F) at a pressure alt. of 1,527m (5,010ft)
K. Dewpoint Temp & Sea Surface Temp (collected at same location as temp inside eye): Not Available
L. Eye Character: Open in the west, W
M. Eye Shape: Elliptical (oval shaped)
M. Orientation of Major Axis in Elliptical Eye: 50° to 230° (NE to SW)
M. Length of Major Axis in Elliptical Eye: 30 nautical miles (35 statute miles)
M. Length of Minor Axis in Elliptical Eye: 20 nautical miles (23 statute miles)
N. Fix Determined By: Penetration, Radar, Wind, Pressure and Temperature
N. Fix Levels (sfc and flt lvl centers are within 5nm of each other): Surface and 850mb
O. Navigational Fix Accuracy: 0.02 nautical miles
O. Meteorological Accuracy: 1 nautical mile

Remarks Section:
Maximum Flight Level Wind: 89kts (~ 102.4mph) which was observed 29 nautical miles (33 statute miles) to the E (88°) from the flight level center at 3:05:30Z
Dropsonde Surface Wind at Center: From 260° at 3kts (From the W at 3mph)
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:11 pm to
Do those lines going straight north and south mean anything? The rest are going east west..sorry for the questions, I'm weather dumb
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43457 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:11 pm to
I think rocket might be trolling now lol.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

The global models aren't budging on the LA landfall




It's hard for me to take the Canadian model seriously, but even the GFS was on the extreme eastern edge of the state.

It will be interesting to see the ensemble members and the Euro over the next few hours.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:12 pm to
Hardly

No prediction has ever given a "real possibility" of cat 2 winds. Zero

It's a lie to suggest as much
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147175 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:12 pm to
these are the last 2 dropsondes dropped in Nate's eye

Drop 9 0115Z... 21.6 N 86.0 W

Drop 15 0316Z... 22.4 N 86.2 W

in 2 hours it's moved 0.8 N 0.2 W

that's... ummmm... fast
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43457 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:13 pm to
almost 1 deg N in 2 hours. Yeah he's booking it.

Barely any W movement too btw.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

That's a real possibility?



Yes. The hurricane center has repeatedly said they have been on the high side of guidance strength wise and there's been a good signal for rapid intensification for days that could make it a stronger storm than they predicted.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33417 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:15 pm to
Based on so few evacuations called, I’d say the emergency managers weren’t thinking Cat 2 or 3
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