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Posted on 10/7/24 at 6:58 am to TheFonz
Just saw 947 on the latest flight
Posted on 10/7/24 at 6:59 am to NorthEndZone
quote:
The hurricane models did predict rapid intensification but this is 6 to 12 hours ahead of even what they were predicting
It also seems like he's a little father south than they were expecting at this point
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:00 am to GEAUXT
Hurricane Milton Special Discussion Number 9
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
700 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
Recent data from both NOAA and Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft
indicate that Milton continues to rapidly strengthen. The Air
Force aircraft very recently reported a peak flight-level wind of
120 kt, and dropsonde data show that the pressure has fallen to
around 945 mb, which is down about 9 mb from a previous dropsonde
report from the NOAA aircraft about an hour ago. This special
advisory is being issued to increase the initial intensity to
110 kt, and to increase the short term intensity forecast that now
shows a peak wind speed of 135 kt in 24 hours.
The aircraft fixes were also a little south of the previous
forecast track and a southward adjustment to the official track
forecast has been made through 36 hours. Hurricane-force winds
are explicitly forecast to affect the northern coast of Yucatan,
and residents in that area should rush preparations to completion.
The updated track forecast has necessitated the government of Mexico
to issue a Tropical Storm Warning and Hurricane Watch from Celestun
southward to Campeche. The storm surge forecast has been increased
to 3 to 5 feet above ground level for portions of the northern coast
of the Yucatan Peninsula.
No changes to the NHC track or intensity forecast were made after
36 hours.
This special advisory was issued in lieu of the normal intermediate
advisory.
Key Messages:
1. Dangerous hurricane-force winds are expected across portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. A life-threatening
storm surge with damaging waves is also likely along portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.
2. There is an increasing risk of life-threatening storm surge and
damaging winds for portions of the west coast of the Florida
Peninsula beginning Tuesday night or early Wednesday. Storm Surge
and Hurricane Watches are now in effect for portions of the west
coast of the Florida Peninsula and residents in that area should
follow any advice given by local officials and evacuate if told to
do so.
3. Areas of heavy rainfall will impact portions of Florida today
well ahead of Milton, with heavy rainfall more directly related to
the system expected later on Tuesday through Wednesday night. This
rainfall will bring the risk of considerable flash, urban, and
areal flooding, along with the potential for moderate to major
river flooding.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 07/1200Z 21.8N 92.2W 110 KT 125 MPH
12H 07/1800Z 21.6N 91.5W 125 KT 145 MPH
24H 08/0600Z 21.8N 89.3W 135 KT 155 MPH
36H 08/1800Z 22.9N 87.5W 130 KT 150 MPH
48H 09/0600Z 24.7N 85.7W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 09/1800Z 26.4N 83.9W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 10/0600Z 28.1N 81.7W 75 KT 85 MPH...INLAND
96H 11/0600Z 30.0N 75.5W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/0600Z 31.5N 68.4W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATRO
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
700 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024
Recent data from both NOAA and Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft
indicate that Milton continues to rapidly strengthen. The Air
Force aircraft very recently reported a peak flight-level wind of
120 kt, and dropsonde data show that the pressure has fallen to
around 945 mb, which is down about 9 mb from a previous dropsonde
report from the NOAA aircraft about an hour ago. This special
advisory is being issued to increase the initial intensity to
110 kt, and to increase the short term intensity forecast that now
shows a peak wind speed of 135 kt in 24 hours.
The aircraft fixes were also a little south of the previous
forecast track and a southward adjustment to the official track
forecast has been made through 36 hours. Hurricane-force winds
are explicitly forecast to affect the northern coast of Yucatan,
and residents in that area should rush preparations to completion.
The updated track forecast has necessitated the government of Mexico
to issue a Tropical Storm Warning and Hurricane Watch from Celestun
southward to Campeche. The storm surge forecast has been increased
to 3 to 5 feet above ground level for portions of the northern coast
of the Yucatan Peninsula.
No changes to the NHC track or intensity forecast were made after
36 hours.
This special advisory was issued in lieu of the normal intermediate
advisory.
Key Messages:
1. Dangerous hurricane-force winds are expected across portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. A life-threatening
storm surge with damaging waves is also likely along portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.
2. There is an increasing risk of life-threatening storm surge and
damaging winds for portions of the west coast of the Florida
Peninsula beginning Tuesday night or early Wednesday. Storm Surge
and Hurricane Watches are now in effect for portions of the west
coast of the Florida Peninsula and residents in that area should
follow any advice given by local officials and evacuate if told to
do so.
3. Areas of heavy rainfall will impact portions of Florida today
well ahead of Milton, with heavy rainfall more directly related to
the system expected later on Tuesday through Wednesday night. This
rainfall will bring the risk of considerable flash, urban, and
areal flooding, along with the potential for moderate to major
river flooding.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 07/1200Z 21.8N 92.2W 110 KT 125 MPH
12H 07/1800Z 21.6N 91.5W 125 KT 145 MPH
24H 08/0600Z 21.8N 89.3W 135 KT 155 MPH
36H 08/1800Z 22.9N 87.5W 130 KT 150 MPH
48H 09/0600Z 24.7N 85.7W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 09/1800Z 26.4N 83.9W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 10/0600Z 28.1N 81.7W 75 KT 85 MPH...INLAND
96H 11/0600Z 30.0N 75.5W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/0600Z 31.5N 68.4W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATRO
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:02 am to GEAUXT
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Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:03 am to TheFonz
This thing is gonna make a run at Cat 5. It will weaken before landfall but could still be a strong 3 or a 4 and will have an expanding wind field and massive surge
If your in Tampa, St Pete, Sarasota or anywhere near get the frick out today. I’m serious get the frick out, this isn’t one you want to play with
If your in Tampa, St Pete, Sarasota or anywhere near get the frick out today. I’m serious get the frick out, this isn’t one you want to play with
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:04 am to Traffic Circle
quote:
Simple answer: don’t go.
Solution: take a road trio to Colorado or Arkansas or somewhere else.
Why: Orlando won’t be fun
You are the father. Make the decision. Lead the family. Then, let them get behind that decision, and have fun
It’s funny. You’ve already hit on our solution. We were looking at cabins in AR last night. The kids are excited about that. Bummed about Universal, but they understand. Just thought about this thread this morning when I woke up and figured I’d check to make sure I wasn’t missing anything.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:05 am to deltaland
There is less than a 0% chance that I would consider keeping any kinds of vacation plans in this things path
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:08 am to GEAUXT
0% is already the lowest percentage
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:14 am to deltaland
quote:
This thing is gonna make a run at Cat 5
This new NHC 7am advisory has Milton reaching Cat 5 before weakening some before landfall.
FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS
INIT 07/1200Z 21.8N 92.2W 110 KT 125 MPH
12H 07/1800Z 21.6N 91.5W 125 KT 145 MPH
24H 08/0600Z 21.8N 89.3W 135 KT 155 MPH
36H 08/1800Z 22.9N 87.5W 130 KT 150 MPH
48H 09/0600Z 24.7N 85.7W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 09/1800Z 26.4N 83.9W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 10/0600Z 28.1N 81.7W 75 KT 85 MPH...INLAND
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:14 am to deltaland
972mb to 945mb in 2 or so hours…
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:19 am to Nitrogen
the HAFS-A and B last night had this going to around 915-918mb maxed out if I remember.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:33 am to LSU2ALA
I would wait as long as possible before canceling...maybe even waiting until Wednesday morning before pulling the plug.
I know everyone in this thread has 100% confidence in the Gospel of NWS but there is always the chance the shear starts degrading the storm's circulation more than is currently forecast and Orlando is spared a major hit. Or the forecast path could change.
If you look at the current radar in the OP you can see that a big chunk of the convection has already been blown east/northeast off of the main circulation.
Also, according to the projected path in the OP the "eye" will be just barely offshore to the north of the Yucatan which means almost all of the southern convection will be over land (of the Yucatan) for several hours. That may degrade the circulation before the center is back over open water.
So, if it doesn't cost you anything by waiting another day or so before canceling, that is what I would do.
I know everyone in this thread has 100% confidence in the Gospel of NWS but there is always the chance the shear starts degrading the storm's circulation more than is currently forecast and Orlando is spared a major hit. Or the forecast path could change.
If you look at the current radar in the OP you can see that a big chunk of the convection has already been blown east/northeast off of the main circulation.
Also, according to the projected path in the OP the "eye" will be just barely offshore to the north of the Yucatan which means almost all of the southern convection will be over land (of the Yucatan) for several hours. That may degrade the circulation before the center is back over open water.
So, if it doesn't cost you anything by waiting another day or so before canceling, that is what I would do.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:38 am to LSURussian
See this was going to be my question to the Mets in the thread.
Milton will at some point be riding that H pressure ridge right into a frontal boundary. The wind sheer has been talked about ad nauseum but my question is will the wind field be further "enhanced" due to this interaction?
Milton will at some point be riding that H pressure ridge right into a frontal boundary. The wind sheer has been talked about ad nauseum but my question is will the wind field be further "enhanced" due to this interaction?
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:39 am to LSURussian
For those of you in the Central Florida area who have been through these before, how much worse than normal should the roads be today? My son just called and said they are cancelling all his classes for the week (after today) and he is going to start toward Dothan around noon. It’s normally about a 6 hour drive for him.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:42 am to LSU2ALA
What part of Arkansas are you looking at? The wife and I just got back from a 3 week vacation in Arkansas and we went 2 years ago. Maybe I can tell you some things to check out. We did a lot of trails and sight seeing. Beautiful state, especially north Arkansas.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:43 am to LSURussian
Hopefully it keeps going more south than expected and interacts with the Yucatan quite a bit.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:43 am to LSURussian
quote:
I would wait as long as possible before canceling...maybe even waiting until Wednesday morning before pulling the plug.
I know everyone in this thread has 100% confidence in the Gospel of NWS but there is always the chance the shear starts degrading the storm's circulation more than is currently forecast and Orlando is spared a major hit. Or the forecast path could change.
If you look at the current radar in the OP you can see that a big chunk of the convection has already been blown east/northeast off of the main circulation.
Also, according to the projected path in the OP the "eye" will be just barely offshore to the north of the Yucatan which means almost all of the southern convection will be over land (of the Yucatan) for several hours. That may degrade the circulation before the center is back over open water.
So, if it doesn't cost you anything by waiting another day or so before canceling, that is what I would do.
Problem is we have to make alternative plans to have something to do those days. The other thing that makes it difficult is getting there. We are in Houston. I have to imagine flights in general are going to be screwed up. I’m not saying there is not a chance you are correct as there is, but I believe there is some value in certainty two or three days out.
Posted on 10/7/24 at 7:44 am to LSURussian
This is my plan, Russian.
We have a vacation that was supposed to get us there Wednesday night. My family of three plus my wife’s coworker and her son who is best friends with my son. They (the mother and son) have never been to Disney and may not get the chance to again.
Our stay is at Old Key West in a 2-bedroom, fully equipped condo. If I could get there early Wednesday, I would. But so far, the only option if the flights are canceled is to drive as far as possible Wednesday afternoon but hotel options are limited. Jacksonville is an option but depending on the path, flooding could be an issue there too along with being on the road Thursday.
If Orlando takes a direct hit from a storm that is still a Cat1 and the path taking it close to Jacksonville, I’ll have no choice but to cancel. But if it goes slower and slower and moves south some, I’ll have options to continue the vacation. And it could be one of the better ones. We don’t have park plans until Friday anyway. Could be the least crowded I’ll ever experience.
We have a vacation that was supposed to get us there Wednesday night. My family of three plus my wife’s coworker and her son who is best friends with my son. They (the mother and son) have never been to Disney and may not get the chance to again.
Our stay is at Old Key West in a 2-bedroom, fully equipped condo. If I could get there early Wednesday, I would. But so far, the only option if the flights are canceled is to drive as far as possible Wednesday afternoon but hotel options are limited. Jacksonville is an option but depending on the path, flooding could be an issue there too along with being on the road Thursday.
If Orlando takes a direct hit from a storm that is still a Cat1 and the path taking it close to Jacksonville, I’ll have no choice but to cancel. But if it goes slower and slower and moves south some, I’ll have options to continue the vacation. And it could be one of the better ones. We don’t have park plans until Friday anyway. Could be the least crowded I’ll ever experience.
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