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re: Hurricane Milton - The Cleanup Begins...

Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:25 am to
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:25 am to
reload that satellite image...the very last 2 ticks are showing signs Milton starting to regain his eye.

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This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 7:26 am
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:26 am to
NHC isn’t predicting a dramatic enlargement of the wind field before landfall:

quote:

HURRICANE CENTER LOCATED NEAR 24.5N 85.4W AT 09/0900Z
POSITION ACCURATE WITHIN 10 NM

PRESENT MOVEMENT TOWARD THE NORTHEAST OR 45 DEGREES AT 12 KT

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE 907 MB
EYE DIAMETER 10 NM
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS 140 KT WITH GUSTS TO 170 KT.
64 KT....... 25NE 25SE 25SW 25NW.
50 KT....... 45NE 50SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT.......100NE 100SE 100SW 110NW.
12 FT SEAS..150NE 150SE 360SW 360NW.
WINDS AND SEAS VARY GREATLY IN EACH QUADRANT. RADII IN NAUTICAL
MILES ARE THE LARGEST RADII EXPECTED ANYWHERE IN THAT QUADRANT.

REPEAT...CENTER LOCATED NEAR 24.5N 85.4W AT 09/0900Z
AT 09/0600Z CENTER WAS LOCATED NEAR 23.8N 85.9W

FORECAST VALID 09/1800Z 25.9N 84.3W
MAX WIND 130 KT...GUSTS 160 KT.
64 KT... 30NE 30SE 30SW 30NW.
50 KT... 50NE 50SE 50SW 50NW.
34 KT...130NE 120SE 100SW 130NW.

FORECAST VALID 10/0600Z 27.4N 82.6W...INLAND
MAX WIND 115 KT...GUSTS 140 KT.
64 KT... 35NE 35SE 35SW 40NW.
50 KT... 70NE 60SE 60SW 70NW.
34 KT...180NE 140SE 100SW 150NW.


It’s also highly asymmetrical with the shear. The furthest extent of hurricane-force winds will be in the south east quadrant.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
32126 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Milton has 50 mile wide hurricane wind field in diameter

Katrina had 200

This isn’t comparable AT ALL.


Milton is more comparable to Camille, a tighter smaller storm, but strong as shite.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:28 am to
IFR looks to be showing some dry air being pulled in on the southern end too
Posted by CuseTiger
Member since Jul 2013
8958 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:28 am to
Tornado watch just popped up

Tornado Watch
Issued: 8:20 AM Oct. 9, 2024 – National Weather Service
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HAS ISSUED TORNADO WATCH 690 IN
EFFECT UNTIL 9 PM EDT THIS EVENING FOR THE FOLLOWING AREAS

IN FLORIDA THIS WATCH INCLUDES 5 COUNTIES

IN EAST CENTRAL FLORIDA

INDIAN RIVER MARTIN OKEECHOBEE
OSCEOLA ST. LUCIE

THIS INCLUDES THE CITIES OF BASINGER, BASSWOOD ESTATES, CELEBRATION, COUNTRY HILLS ESTATES, DEER PARK, FORT DRUM, FORT PIERCE, FOUR SEASONS ESTATES, GROVENOR ESTATES, HOBE SOUND, HOBE SOUND BEACH, INDIANTOWN, JAYCEE BEACH, JENSEN BEACH, KISSIMMEE PRAIRIE PRESERVE, OKEECHOBEE, PALM CITY, PORT SAINT LUCIE, PORT SALERNO, SEBASTIAN, SEBASTIAN INLET, STUART, VERO BEACH, VERO BEACH SOUTH, AND VERO LAKE ESTATES.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:29 am to
quote:

64 KT....... 25NE 25SE 25SW 25NW
to this
quote:

64 KT... 35NE 35SE 35SW 40NW.
Is a 50% increase. You’re saying they’re NOT predicting a wind field expansion??
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32479 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:31 am to
quote:

I am guessing landfall near Sarasota or just North of there.


Basically going right through Longboat Key.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39863 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:34 am to
Yeah sort of. Camille had a 100 mile wide wind field. Milton is smaller than that.

It’s most similar to Andrew in size:

Andrew



Milton

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175885 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:36 am to
Wind field should increase as it weakens and unwinds.

The way the eye is right now on radar is one of those with a narrow intense wind fields that gives where ever it hits a Mexican vasectomy. But places 30 miles up the road get a stiff breeze.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39863 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Is a 50% increase. You’re saying they’re NOT predicting a wind field expansion??


That’s not dramatic. That’s going to come with significant weakening as well. This is in reference to a post comparing Katrina to Milton.

I never said they weren’t predicting a wind field expansion. I’ve literally been posting the graphics of the wind field expansion happening.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39863 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:39 am to
Milton is still riding southeast of the cone

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27577 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:39 am to
quote:

reload that satellite image...the very last 2 ticks are showing signs Milton starting to regain his eye.

I’m impressed by how close the eye is to what appears to be the northern edge of the storm.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91362 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:40 am to
I haven’t read the steering forecast in a bit but they must be predicting a slowdown in forward speed as it turns east. As it stands now it’s only 12.5 hours out from Tampa (200 miles at 16 mph), but they’re showing landfall closer to midnight.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:40 am to
quote:

This is in reference to a post comparing Katrina to Milton.
You compared it to Andrew at landfall. It will be twice the size as Andrew by volume when it hits. I know what you’re posting. Do you?

Yes it will weaken but the data you posted still has it as a major hurricane when it hits. Maybe even still a 4. Just so you’re aware… 115kt is a Cat4.
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 7:42 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26339 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:46 am to
quote:

I haven’t read the steering forecast in a bit but they must be predicting a slowdown in forward speed as it turns east. As it stands now it’s only 12.5 hours out from Tampa (200 miles at 16 mph), but they’re showing landfall closer to midnight.


It will slow down just a little as it gets closer to land, and its going 14mph, not 16 according to the 8am advisory. Also, its not taking a bird path to Tampa, it will have kind of an arc to it, so it will travel further than 200 miles
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 7:49 am
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
9459 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:47 am to
Weather nerd arguments are the best arguments.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
13786 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:47 am to
At this point the main thing that will determine landfall location is when the bend back to the right begins.
Posted by MrFreakinMiyagi
Reseda
Member since Feb 2007
19705 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:50 am to
There’s going to be shite everywhere after this storm

On the news they keep showing this debris drop off area by the amphitheater in Tampa. It’s just a huge pile of crap right next to the interstate.
Posted by tiger1969
Denham Springs
Member since May 2008
1126 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:50 am to
Not necessarily directed to you AllDay, but anyone in general who can answer this. With the mandatory evacuations, can we expect any of the storm chasers to be near ground zero for this one, or will they be more on the outer fringes?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16043 posts
Posted on 10/9/24 at 7:50 am to
quote:

The wind field is going to get much larger at it will be impacted by shear/cold front.


True

As it approaches land, the wind field will expand.
Milton does not look to be as large a system as Katrina though so I’m guessing the expansion will be less.?
This post was edited on 10/9/24 at 7:59 am
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