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re: Hurricane Florence - Catastrophic Flooding Potential

Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:05 pm to
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hate all these people have gone through the trouble of evacuating and preparing for a major hurricane, but the only thing better than having to go through all that mess is not having a major hurricane hit you. I don’t see the problem with it being downgraded. I am happy for the east coast. Hope it fizzles out even more....



Yep. It's funny that people seem upset they left for "nothing", as if you'd feel better about leaving if you came home to a leveled home.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56528 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:06 pm to
I like how I got downvoted earlier for saying this storm would be nothin as drastic as people are making it. Looks like I’m right
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:07 pm to
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like how I got downvoted earlier for saying this storm would be nothin as drastic as people are making it. Looks like I’m right


It won't be nothing though. You were still wrong.

ETA - but hopefully you're right. Hopefully it turns out like tropical depression Paul...

This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:08 pm to
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I like how I got downvoted earlier for saying this storm would be nothin as drastic as people are making it. Looks like I’m right




Was your prediction based on statistical and mathematical analysis, or pulling it out of your arse with zero understanding of what was going on?

If the former, I salute you sir. If the latter....even a functional retard is correct on occasion.

Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108298 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:08 pm to
So. You guessed with no information and got lucky it happened. Congrats I guess. The nws should hire you.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31525 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:09 pm to


Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46769 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:09 pm to
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It's funny that people seem upset they left for "nothing",


95 sustained, with 115 gusts, and 3 feet of water in you kitchen still aint nothing nice.

A lot of old growth trees are still coming down. I just hope they all miss the houses.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56528 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:10 pm to
I’ve always had a knack for these things based off little basic analysis. Should have been a meteorologist. Louisiana universities really need to promote these types of studies
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:11 pm to
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I don’t see the problem with it being downgraded. I am happy for the east coast. Hope it fizzles out even more....



Everyone I’m sure agrees with you.

That’s not the point though.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109164 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:12 pm to
The real hero is peej. Flo was a Cat 4 when he said it would be horrible.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:13 pm to
Stop watching things for a couple of hours and now Flo's dead huh?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:14 pm to
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The real hero is peej. Flo was a Cat 4 when he said it would be horrible.


Seriously? I mean that should have been the end of discussion of this storm if that were the case.

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
46769 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

even a functional retard is correct on occasion.


He is about 4' tall, living the life of a hobbit. Let him go. He needs the W.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

The real hero is peej. Flo was a Cat 4 when he said it would be horrible.




Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45911 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

Stop watching things for a couple of hours and now Flo's dead huh?



Like a fart in the wind.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

Stop watching things for a couple of hours and now Flo's dead huh?


Looks like recon just found 97 mph winds, but that's the highest they recorded in 3 hours. Flo is a mess, but hurricane winds are still pretty wide to the N and E. NWS says 80 miles from the center.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21504 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:22 pm to
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quote:
Most storms start to lose their southern half as they move up in latitude along the east coast.



quote:

quote:Sub/extra tropical systems at a much further latitude I would agree, but shes barely above the latitude of New Orleans.


You can get sub tropical systems in the Gulf. The reason that systems rarely ever take the Florence route is because they get caught up with mid-lat troughs, turn out to sea, and transition to sub/extratropical.

This is a synoptic composite image and it is a good way to see these types of transitions. As Florence approaches the coast, it is cutoff from the mid-lat flow (blue areas) by the blocking highs (red circles). This approach is almost purely tropical and pretty unusual for the East Coast. Typically, we would see a system approaching the EC and merging with a trough (blue area) with the arrows pointing N/NE towards the trough. The area in the black circle is kind of what we would expect to see, although not a perfect match.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:24 pm to


107 mph at the surface-ish. Kinda sorta validates the NHC 11pm update.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:27 pm to
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Flo is a mess, but hurricane winds are still pretty wide to the N and E. NWS says 80 miles from the center.


She was a mess at five but I see the shear you showed from the drops earlier did a hell of a number on the south side. She never really got back together from the EWCR this morning. As that ULL keeps digging away south and she hits the gulf stream, I'd expect the convection to pick up on the south side but sheeeeeeeet there's no way a storm that big will ever really get the inner core wrapped up and symmetrical with such little time left.

She seems almost like a Cat 1 storm with a 80 mile wide "eyewall". Which will suck for a whole lot of people.
Posted by Hog cracklin
Member since Aug 2018
321 posts
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:28 pm to
Any models get both the track right and call for wind speed reduction so far?
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