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re: Hurricane Dorian - Headed to Canada

Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:00 pm to
The 12 GEFS and Euro EPS still point to the most likely outcome being that this dies over the Islands. They still highlight a lower end chance that this survives far enough north to make the turn west towards the Gulf. Not much has really changed from a couple of days ago.
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:12 pm to
So I’m guessing my 4 night norwegian booze cruise to the bahamas leaving thursday is now a 4 night booze cruise NOT in the bahamas
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
50735 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:16 pm to
Of course there is one ensemble that brings a Cat 3 into New Orleans.
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127759 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:20 pm to
Would you say by Friday we will have a pretty firm grip on what this thing is going to do?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154430 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:22 pm to
Maybe divert to Mexico?
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52497 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Of course there is one ensemble that brings a Cat 3 into New Orleans.
there always has to be atleast one
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52497 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:53 pm to


Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43120 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:55 pm to
ZCZC MIATCDAT5 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

Tropical Storm Dorian Discussion Number 10
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL052019
500 PM AST Mon Aug 26 2019

Dorian's convective pattern has waxed and waned this afternoon due
to intrusions of dry mid-level air while the upper-level outflow
pattern has continued to expand and become more symmetrical.
Although the inner-core convection has decreased recently, a recent
burst of strong convection with cloud tops colder than -80C has
redeveloped just north of the low-level center. The initial
intensity remains at 50 kt based on a an average of satellite
intensity estimates ranging from 45 kt to 61 kt from TAFB, SAB, and
UW-CIMSS SATCON and ADT. An Air Force Reserve reconnaissance
aircraft is scheduled to investigate Dorian by 0000 UTC this
evening, and will provide a better estimate of the cyclone's
intensity.

The initial motion is west-northwestward or 290/12 kt. There is no
significant change to the previous forecast track or reasoning. The
latest NHC model guidance remains in very agreement that Dorian will
move west-northwestward across the central Lesser Antilles tonight
and into the northeastern Caribbean Sea on Tuesday as the cyclone
moves around the edge of the Bermuda-Azores ridge located well to
the north. On Wednesday, Dorian should turn northwestward into a
small weakness in the ridge, allowing the tropical cyclone to pass
near or between western Puerto Rico and the eastern Dominican
Republic. By late Thursday and Friday, the ridge is forecast to
build back in as an upper-level trough lifts out to the north,
causing Dorian to turn back toward the west-northwest in the
vicinity of the central Bahamas. The new official forecast track is
just an extension of the previous one since the latest model
guidance, especially the consensus models, are tightly packed around
the previous track forecast.

The intensity forecast remains something of an enigma. The majority
of the environmental conditions support at least steady
strengthening, with the main hindrance being the very dry mid-level
air surrounding the cyclone and occasionally being entrained into
Dorian's inner-core region. The small but robust circulation should
continue mix out the brief dry air intrusions, but when an eyewall
will form is still uncertain. Given that Dorian will be moving into
the convective maximum period later tonight, the intensity forecast
still calls for Dorian be near hurricane strength when it passes
through the Windward Islands. Interaction with Hispaniola and
possibly Puerto Rico should result in some weakening in 72-96
hours, followed by restrengthening on days 4 and 5 when Dorian will
be moving over the very warm waters in the Bahamas in low shear
conditions. Most of the global models along with the statistical-
dynamical SHIPS and LGEM intensity models are now showing pronounced
strengthening while Dorian is moving near or through the Bahamas, so
the official forecast shows a significant change to the previous
one at 96 and 120 hours. However, confidence in the intensity
forecast at days 4 and 5 is very low given the uncertainty about how
much of Dorian's core will interact with Hispaniola.

Key Messages:

1. Dorian is expected to bring tropical storm conditions to portions
of the Lesser Antilles tonight and Tuesday, where tropical storm
watches and warnings are in effect. Hurricane conditions are
possible in St. Lucia, where a Hurricane Watch is in effect.
Rainfall of 3 to 8 inches is expected from Martinique to St.
Vincent, including Barbados, with isolated totals as high as 10
inches possible.

2. Tropical storm conditions are possible in Puerto Rico on
Wednesday, where a tropical storm watch has been issued. Rainfall
of 2 to 4 inches with maximum totals of 6 inches are possible
across Puerto Rico and St. Croix.

3. Watches will likely be issued for portions of Hispaniola tonight
or Tuesday, as the threat of wind and rain impacts continues to
increase.

4. While uncertainty is high, wind and rain impacts are possible in
the Bahamas and Florida later this week and this weekend. Residents
in these areas should monitor the progress of Dorian and ensure that
they have their hurricane plan in place.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 26/2100Z 12.7N 58.8W 50 KT 60 MPH
12H 27/0600Z 13.4N 60.5W 55 KT 65 MPH
24H 27/1800Z 14.5N 62.6W 60 KT 70 MPH
36H 28/0600Z 15.7N 64.6W 65 KT 75 MPH
48H 28/1800Z 17.1N 66.7W 70 KT 80 MPH
72H 29/1800Z 20.1N 70.2W 50 KT 60 MPH
96H 30/1800Z 23.0N 73.8W 55 KT 65 MPH
120H 31/1800Z 25.5N 78.0W 60 KT 70 MPH

$$
Forecaster Stewart
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21018 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:05 pm to
quote:


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 26/2100Z 12.7N 58.8W 50 KT 60 MPH
12H 27/0600Z 13.4N 60.5W 55 KT 65 MPH
24H 27/1800Z 14.5N 62.6W 60 KT 70 MPH
36H 28/0600Z 15.7N 64.6W 65 KT 75 MPH
48H 28/1800Z 17.1N 66.7W 70 KT 80 MPH
72H 29/1800Z 20.1N 70.2W 50 KT 60 MPH
96H 30/1800Z 23.0N 73.8W 55 KT 65 MPH
120H 31/1800Z 25.5N 78.0W 60 KT 70 MPH

$$
Forecaster Stewart


Hmmm... NHC going with strengthening as the system starts to turn back west towards Florida.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129041 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:08 pm to
NHC wishcasters!
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1934 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Hmmm... NHC going with strengthening as the system starts to turn back west towards Florida.


In this case, a stronger storm likely is influenced by the ridge to its north and higher chances of it entering the gulf.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42028 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:13 pm to
From the latest disco:

quote:

Interaction with Hispaniola and
possibly Puerto Rico should result in some weakening in 72-96
hours, followed by restrengthening on days 4 and 5 when Dorian will
be moving over the very warm waters in the Bahamas in low shear
conditions. Most of the global models along with the statistical-
dynamical SHIPS and LGEM intensity models are now showing pronounced
strengthening while Dorian is moving near or through the Bahamas, so
the official forecast shows a significant change to the previous
one at 96 and 120 hours. However, confidence in the intensity
forecast at days 4 and 5 is very low given the uncertainty about how
much of Dorian's core will interact with Hispaniola.
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 4:13 pm
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:35 pm to
I usually stick to watching the Euro and GFS but I'll be keeping an eye on the ICON to see if it performs as well with this system like it did Barry.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21018 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 5:19 pm to
Impressive convective burst as recon approaches. Given the number of outflows today, I'm not sure how organized the inner core is but recon should find some stiff winds in that burst of storms.

Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129041 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 5:20 pm to
Weather boards are gonna be jizzing RI soon
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21018 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

Weather boards are gonna be jizzing RI soon


Deep convective burst like this one are necessary to develop the inner core but the pattern so far has been more indicative of a system struggling with dry air. Over the last 24hrs we have seen impressive burst but they quickly collapse (indicated by the outflow boundaries seen on visible today) and that is a sign of dry/stable air in the system. Of course, if you scream "RI" every time a tower goes up then you will eventually be right
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34201 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 6:36 pm to
Thanks for the continued updates. What model run times will have the latest recon data? This should provide more guidance
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 6:43 pm to
they really need to find a way to improve intensity forecasts with these computer models especially for smaller storms like this where it could easily just ramp up
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33374 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61261 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 7:54 pm to
You need to get a new hobby
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