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re: Huge data center approved with 'aggressive timeline to build' in far northern BR suburbs
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:46 am to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:46 am to Meauxjeaux
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stupid pdf
Huh? I didn't post a PDF, I posted a link to a tech source that had multiple studies referenced, but yeah, ok.
I don't give a frick one way or the other how the people of Louisiana keep fooling themselves about how the economy is this close to turning a corner, etc. I would be the first to volunteer for a nuclear reactor to be put on my property, and I'm for sure not an enviro-NIMBY.
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:46 am to Meauxjeaux
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Maintaining a baseball field does the exact same thing. Maybe we should bulldoze every single baseball field in the world.
So, it seems you have a problem understanding scale.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:48 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Do the clouds stay local to the evaporative cooling tower or does that water vapor distribute elsewhere?
Hopefully the clouds fly up to the Great Lakes area and rain there, where it can re-enter the aquifer and make its way back down to Louisiana in about 1 million years.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:48 am to The Boat
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Why does no one ask what the frick all these data centers are for
Unless you are talking about "who owns them", which is a valid question, there is no mystery about what they are used for. It's either cloud storage or AI computing. It's relatively cut and dry.
I live outside of South Bend, IN and right now this area is one of the fastest growing hotbeds for data centers because municipalities are basically paying them to come here. It does irritate me that the companies that will own and operate them are allowed to remain anonymous through the entire land purchase, rezoning, and permitting process. We don't know who's moving in until it's too late to veto it essentially.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:49 am to Meauxjeaux
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I would challenge that a data center doesn’t consume even a single ounce of water.
Even though there are multiple people who have pulled links showing you otherwise? I work in data center construction. They use a lot of water for cooling.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:53 am to Powerman
They use, but do they consume? Gosh you idiot, it doesn’t matter that you work in data center construction and I work in industrial water treatment, these industrial sites don’t consume water. There will be no extra demand on water with these facilities because it’s not consumed.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:53 am to TigerFanatic99
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Unless you are talking about "who owns them", which is a valid question, there is no mystery about what they are used for. It's either cloud storage or AI computing. It's relatively cut and dry.
Some are used for military intelligence and other research uses as well.
What they are used for isn't really that important to the local public. They're going to be built somewhere regardless.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:53 am to UltimaParadox
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Tell me more about the recurring water demands for a data center.
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ultimately revealed that Google data centers in the region consumed more than 355 million gal. of water in 2021 — an amount that had tripled since 2016 — representing more than one-quarter of the town’s annual water consumption, according to the February 22, 2023
Water is not an issue for southern Louisiana. And 355 million gallons for this example is not a lot.
For example the Carrollton Water Treatment Plant for the East Bank of NOLA produces 110 million gallons per day. (They only measure 55 million a day but that is another story.)
355 million gallons a year is less than a million gallons per day. This is very easily attainable given Louisiana's water resources either by drilling on site or a near by surface source.
ETA: I have not check but the available power supply with water resources make southern Louisiana attractive for data centers. The downside is Hurricanes and potential power outages...but there are ways to mitigate around this.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 8:57 am
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:54 am to coastland909
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:55 am to ProjectP2294
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So, it seems you have a problem understanding scale.
Actually, it seems you have a problem, understanding scale beyond something such as a data center or power plant.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:55 am to Oilfieldbiology
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There will be no extra demand on water with these facilities because it’s not consumed.
There will be additional local demand
Just because the water evaporates and winds up somewhere else it doesn't mean that it can't increase local demand
Unless you think that there is no place on earth that deals with drought conditions since water isn't "consumed"
Seems like a pretty stupid thing to think. What if we add 4 million more homes to the BR area? Would they not require more water infrastructure to be put in place?
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:57 am to GumboPot
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355 million gallons a year is less than a million gallons per day. This is very easily attainable given Louisiana's water resources either by drilling on site or a near by surface source.
I don't think anyone is saying that it isn't attainable. We're just pointing out that extra infrastructure will need to be built out to support these facilities.
It's not that difficult of a concept
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:58 am to Powerman
Man TD really needs a sarcasm font.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:00 am to Powerman
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I don't think anyone is saying that it isn't attainable. We're just pointing out that extra infrastructure will need to be built out to support these facilities.
It's not that difficult of a concept
I know. I was just responding the the article linked. They were projecting their water scarcity anxiety obviously from other regions in the U.S. on to southern Louisiana.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 9:03 am
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:02 am to zippyputt
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I would not call St. Francisville a “suburb” of Baton Rouge. It was founded in 1807.
Anybody gonna tell him about Galveston? Yes, it's a suburb of Houston.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:04 am to Powerman
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I don't think anyone is saying that it isn't attainable. We're just pointing out that extra infrastructure will need to be built out to support these facilities. It's not that difficult of a concept
Breaking: growth and development needs new infrastructure. News at 11.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:07 am to Meauxjeaux
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Breaking: growth and development needs new infrastructure. News at 11.
This whole conversation could have been avoided if you didn't large the dumbest semantical argument in history
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:07 am to Meauxjeaux
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Breaking: growth and development needs new infrastructure. News at 11.
So do they require water or not? Your argument was that data centers don’t consume water, now you’re saying that possible increased infrastructure will be needed. Which is it?
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:13 am to frequent flyer
Does this mean my electricity will be less reliable?
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:16 am to Oilfieldbiology
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So do they require water or not?
Requires cooling water.
Usually the treatment for cooling water is easier than potable water. Potable water has health standards and potable water just have to meet equipment standards.
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