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re: HS football star shot to death in Sugarloaf Mills mall parking lot in Lawrenceville (ATL)

Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68834 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Which is why I laugh about how Cobb and Gwinnett were against MARTA expansion ("citing" crime concerns) yet significant parts of both counties still had areas go down the toilet.


Well you had a lot of non citizens that came to those areas and blacks escaping the north.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7311 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:13 pm to
Good seafood all around. Oysters on the half shell, steamed, fried, or however you like them. Good beer selection.
Oyster Bay

Cuban sammiches are GREAT! Nothing bad on the menu. Right next door to Oyster Bay. Be prepared to have your ears overwhelmed with Tito Puente music in the evenings on the weekends.
d'Floridian

For Mexican, I like this little hole in the wall place in the Kroger shopping center on the corner of Grayson Hwy and Gwinnett Drive. It's called Cuernavaca. Armando and Beto have some pretty decent food there.

There's also a La Cazuela about a block away from Oyster Bay and d'Floridian as well as McCray's (Scottish/Irish) on the corner of Crogan and Perry. Across from McCray's is another good place with great BBQ and Cajun ribs known as Foggy Bottom.

That little two or three block length of Crogan St has some decent places to eat!
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
42036 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:15 pm to
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inner city Atlanta ghetto.

No such thing, it’s the best place to live
Posted by CincinnatiTiger
Cincinnati, OH
Member since May 2010
904 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:19 pm to
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Duluth


The Koreans ain’t going down without a god damn valiant fight.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29418 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:24 pm to
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I’m just off Scenic Hwy in Windsor Farms subdivision. About a mile and a half from Central Gwinnett HS.


I lived right where 316/Duluth highway/lawrenceville suwanee road all basically converge

That was a sweet place to live as literally anything I wanted to do was 2 miles from my apartment at most .
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2991 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:26 pm to
This country fricking sucks right now. Crime is up everywhere and our cities are collapsing under mismanagement, crime, and stupidity.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79281 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:27 pm to
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they love to go to places like a dave and busters, malls...they can loiter and not spend money and cause trouble



Yeah the reality is that the correlation between places kids might have crappy birthday parties and shootings is pretty high in Atlanta.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6284 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:30 pm to
I don't know if we will ever learn more but this doesn't sound random being that no one else was injured or killed.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7311 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:36 pm to
My favorite thing about the area is that I can hook up my Gheenoe to the truck and head to Abbotts Bridge and spend the day on the Chattahoochee fly fishing for trout. Everything else is lagniappe.

It’s been a good place to live for the past twenty years. (I may still move to a swamp in south Mississippi or south Louisiana when I retire though. Maybe…)
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29614 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:37 pm to
Looks gay
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52755 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:39 pm to
quote:


My favorite thing about the area is that I can hook up my Gheenoe to the truck and head to Abbotts Bridge and spend the day on the Chattahoochee fly fishing for trout. Everything else is lagniappe.

It’s been a good place to live for the past twenty years. (I may still move to a swamp in south Mississippi or south Louisiana when I retire though. Maybe…)


I had to go to that general area last year for work, and I was impressed by what I saw. Seemed like a decent place to live.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11401 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:13 pm to
Don’t feel too bad. Word amongst the kids is he was buying coke for his girlfriend and tried to rob the dealer. Darwin Award winner.
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3554 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:35 pm to
I read it was a continued dispute that escalated to the other party shooting the kid. They both knew each other and the suspect is in custody.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7800 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:41 pm to
I am old enough to remember when this would never happen in this part of Atlanta.
Posted by AthensRattler
Classic City, GA
Member since Dec 2013
912 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:42 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/6/22 at 7:43 pm
Posted by CHiPs25
ATL
Member since Apr 2014
2904 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:47 pm to
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Don’t feel too bad. Word amongst the kids is he was buying coke for his girlfriend and tried to rob the dealer. Darwin Award winner.


This is far from the truth. I know the family, went to high school with both the mom and dad and their son was an upstanding kid. Still not sure of the specifics as to why this occurred but whatever it was, it wasn't worth this kids life. Seems like the shooters (and most like them) resort to killing as a first resort rather than just fighting it out like we did back in the day.

I work in the general area and Sugarloaf Mills is about as sketchy as you can get at night. I would stay clear of this area once that sun started going down, nothing good happens over there. The mall operator (Simon) has really let this place go. You have people to go to the mall for Bass Pro Shops and complete opposite set of people that go there for trouble.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20250 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

is Lawrenceville ghetto?


quote:

Parts are, but probably not in the manner most of this board would think of as ghetto

Like many suburbs of Atlanta that used to be at least mediocre, it's nonetheless pretty undesirable at this point


From my experience with some court filings over there...admittedly a bit dated...you are correct. I can name many towns that have a similar construct but the D&B area seemed pretty solid as a whole. I need to figure out how to make a swivel for heads now though, is it seems they will unfortunately be necessary before long and you can make bank with that invention.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86541 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 1:57 pm to
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This is far from the truth. I know the family, went to high school with both the mom and dad and their son was an upstanding kid.


I don't have the slightest clue of anything at all relating to this story, but just because you know the parents and family doesn't mean you know everythign the kid was doing. Teenagers are just that, and they are surprisingly good at keeping some things hidden from their parents (and their parents high school friends).

Pretty much every single person I was really tight with in HS/college was a "good kid". Got good grades. Dressed well. No legal trouble. Yes sir/no sir. Please and thank you. The role model of a good teenager. But every one of us drank and did drugs starting in high school. It's just not something that would be advertised to our parents.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86541 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 2:08 pm to
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is Lawrenceville ghetto?


I'm not sure if that's the term I'd use, but it's certainly not waht it was 20 years ago. The same can be said for all of Gwinnett county. I grew up in gwinnett somewhat near lawrenceville and it was kind of that perfect blend of "used to be really small town but isn't quite THAT small time anymore and has plenty of stuff for poeple to do" but hadn't really exploded off the charts yet. Now it's all unrecognizable. Gwinnett county is a dump outside of a few enclaves of really nice subdivisions but even those erally nice ones are right next to ones that are filled with trash. You could quadruple my salary and I wouldn't even consider living in gwinnett county these days.
Posted by dawgski
Member since Mar 2021
32 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 2:36 pm to
i was there w/ my family. happened 2 cars away from mine right in front. (this was right near awning of D&B.) tragedy as there were family’s everywhere since fall break….

couldn’t leave til well after midnight since truck was wrapped in crime tape.

lead detective (wearing uga button-up) downloaded the 360 video off the tesla parked next to us. what a tragedy.
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