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re: How would you handle the arrest of this woman?
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:26 am to LCA131
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:26 am to LCA131
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What if after scolding her, giving her those instructions, waiting a few minutes to see if she complied, he leaves. She gets in her vehicle, even WITH a flat tire and drives off. Has a wreck and kills someone.
So all drunk people should be arrested because they might get into a car later?
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:37 am to davyjones
To your last point, Police would come into bars if someone called them and reported a situation. If no one calls, to your point, police don’t go in bars and arrest drunk people.
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:39 am to tiggerthetooth
Seems justified to me but the blood will scare them into a settlement
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:40 am to kywildcatfanone
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Why? He was dealing with a drunk who was resisting. He seemed to handle it well. Why is it the cops fault?
There was no urgency in cuffing her there. His pressing the issue made it worse and then it probably would’ve been well advised to have a policy of the dude that smashed her face not being the one to handle her for awhile... you know, if looking for best practices to avoid scenes like this
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:41 am to David Bowman
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So all drunk people should be arrested because they might get i
That's not at all what I said. I was replying to his post that the policeman should have told her to sit down and behave and then leave.
-Responding to the calls he received, he certainly had the legal right to question her.
-given the responses he received, and the behavior she exhibited, there is no way he should have left.
-but once she tried to leave, then all bets are off and he did the right thing.
-but nice try.
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:43 am to 13
Well yeah, like a drunk and disorderly situation, sure. But certainly not just preemptively, i.e. "We've got a super drunk guy in our bar, but he's minding his own business. But very drunk regardless."
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:44 am to David Bowman
Dumb argument... if someone has the cops called on them, the police address the situation. They seek other alternatives to arrest if an arrest isn’t the only possible outcome, happens all the time! Unfortunately it doesn’t make news.
I understand you are looking to poke holes in someone’s statement, but keep in mind she wasn’t arrested because she was drunk. Being drunk caused her to escalate a situation that otherwise could have been easily resolved. It’s a shame, but being drunk contributes to all kinds of unintended consequences.
I understand you are looking to poke holes in someone’s statement, but keep in mind she wasn’t arrested because she was drunk. Being drunk caused her to escalate a situation that otherwise could have been easily resolved. It’s a shame, but being drunk contributes to all kinds of unintended consequences.
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:45 am to yellowfin
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You must have watched a different video than the one I saw because he asked her lots of questions. She wouldn’t answer, wouldn’t give her name, became aggravated she was being questioned, etc. she fell and busted her nose cause she was drunk and stupid. Cop did nothing wrong
Dealing with a drunk you’ve got to be a little expecting that just asking them the same question over and over might not be effective
Do you think some “were you trying to get in his truck?” or “are you an owner of the truck” or such may have been good to roll in? She in her drunk state didn’t think there was anything noteworthy to share about going by his truck so try to poke at the story other ways
she Was drunk and a handful but if he would’ve better managed her better odds are there’s not a face smash in it
This post was edited on 8/25/19 at 8:56 am
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:49 am to 13
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not caused herself to get arrested!!
She committed no crime, so why was she arrested?
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:53 am to BuckyCheese
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She committed no crime, so why was she arrested?
She refused to give the officer her name after she was under suspicion if breaking into cars. Then she started to run away from the cop when he was trying to question her.
Is that not something society should care about? Should we just let those things pass now?
This post was edited on 8/25/19 at 8:54 am
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:55 am to CapperVin
And...IF it's YOUR vehicle reportedly being BROKEN INTO/DAMAGED...is it still OK to let this lying drunk do as she pleases ? CONSEQUENCES my friend CONSEQUENCES !
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:55 am to BuckyCheese
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She committed no crime,
That’s incorrect
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:56 am to NoSaint
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Dealing with a drunk you’ve got to be a little expecting that just asking them the same question over and over might not be effective
Ah well, let's accommodate the public shite stirrer then! Always cater to the unruly.
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Do you think some “were you trying to get in his truck?” or “are you an owner of the truck” or such may have been good to roll in? She in her drunk state didn’t think there was anything noteworthy to share about going by his truck so try to prove at the story other ways
You mean the people at the apartment building who called him in that stopped her from breaking into the vehicle wasnt enough?
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she Was drunk and a handful but if he would’ve better managed her better odds are there’s not a face smash in it
So what should have happened to her after she refused to give her name?
Posted on 8/25/19 at 8:57 am to NoSaint
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Dealing with a drunk you’ve got to be a little expecting that just asking them the same question over and over might not be effective
Not the officers problem.
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she Was drunk and a handful but if he would’ve better managed her better odds are there’s not a face smash in it
Not his job to cater to a drunk. If you can't handle yourself when drinking, and act like that, it's nobody's problem but your own. You need to not drink so much, or expect to be dealt with if you get out of hand...
That's what the officer did, dealt with that foolish drunk.
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:08 am to BuckyCheese
I sympathize greatly with law enforcement and glad our local men are professional and good at DIFFUSING situations. But this arse handled this like a prick and those here supporting him would be singing a different tune if their daughter/sister/someone they love would have been treated like this hypothetically.
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:09 am to tiggerthetooth
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Then she started to run away from the cop when he was trying to question her.
That seems a tad overstated
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:10 am to cattus
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But this arse handled this like a prick and those here supporting him would be singing a different tune if their daughter/sister/someone they love would have been treated like this hypothetically.
Was this daughter/sister/someone seen trying to break into vehicles and then refusing to answer basic questions like what their name is?
Next time you get stopped speeding, refuse to give the officer your name and report back to us what happens.
This post was edited on 8/25/19 at 9:10 am
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:11 am to Steadyhands
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Not his job to cater to a drunk.
Its 110% his job to cater to a wide variety of mental abilities and states to create best outcomes.
Like it’s largely the definition of his job to make those efforts to meet people where their capabilities have them.
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:11 am to NoSaint
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That seems a tad overstated
Was she or was she not moving away from the police officer?
Was she refusing to answer questions?
Was she spotted by eye witnesses attempting to break into vehicles?
Posted on 8/25/19 at 9:13 am to NoSaint
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Its 110% his job to cater to a wide variety of mental abilities and states to create best outcomes.
Like it’s largely the definition of his job to make those efforts to meet people where their capabilities have them.
Wrong. It's his job to keep those who follow the law safe and to go home to his own family.
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