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re: How The Sugar Industry Shifted The Blame To Fat

Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:17 am to
Posted by SaintBrees
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:17 am to
You're assuming the average Joe wants to put the time and energy into not only counting calories, but planning within macros as well. I agree that it is beneficial especially if you are a gym person, but that is exactly the kind of thing that overwhelms people looking to lose and pushes them away.

Simple CICO isn't perfect, but you will lose doing it with no additional help.. and that appeals to the average person.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:21 am to
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Simple CICO isn't perfect, but you will lose doing it with no additional help.. and that appeals to the average person.




That is a fair point.

I think the best thing for people to do is lifting and macro counting. But if nothing else, at least CICO.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93304 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 9:23 am to
Learn your bsm - basal metabolic rate, consume fewer calories than that and every 4,500 calorie deficit will reward you with one less pound.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3970 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:23 am to
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Maybe you should go back to like page 2 and look at that chart with the coca cola can.


Why?? This has nothing to do with my comments.


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And I can clearly tell you don't see the relationship between liquid carbs and solid carbs.



If you had read any of the articles or my comments, you would know what I'm talking about. Anyone who has to acknowledge that there is a difference between liquid and solid carbs is not doing too well.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3970 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 10:23 am to
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every 4,500 calorie deficit will reward you with one less pound.


It's 3500 calories.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:45 pm to
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I can eat 2000 calories of pop tarts or 2000 calories of bacon and have near similar results, in terms of body composition, to about 99% accuracy

The other 1% is just a massive circle jerk - hence this thread


Again - only if you are focused on weight loss is that true. If you are focused on what really matters - inflammation, atherosclerosis, cancer, diabetes, alzheimers, kidney function, etc. - then your statements are outlandishly stupid.

A lifetime of bathing all of your body's cells in sugar is likely to lead to chronic (and/or terminal) conditions which destroy your quality of life and longevity.

Why should it even be marginally controversial that what you eat matters?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:47 pm to
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which destroy your quality of life and longevity.



not really concerned about my health after age 60 buddy boyo


continue your circle jerk, while im getting ready to eat a costco pizza, at 11% BF.


inb4 youll get diabetes
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

You're assuming the average Joe wants to put the time and energy into not only counting calories, but planning within macros as well. I agree that it is beneficial especially if you are a gym person, but that is exactly the kind of thing that overwhelms people looking to lose and pushes them away.

Simple CICO isn't perfect, but you will lose doing it with no additional help.. and that appeals to the average person.


Way easier to just eat real food and not too much of it while also not being a couch potato. Even the most approximate version of that simple formula will lead to vastly better outcomes.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:53 pm to
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should it even be marginally controversial that what you eat matters?


There is no point in arguing with Captain Ancedote, the Eternal Batchelor Nihilist (First and possibly last of his Name)

The stuff he posts is no better than the bro-science he loathes (because it is from the myopic perspective of aesthetics alone).
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 1:55 pm to
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Captain Ancedote, the Eternal Batchelor Nihilist


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

Captain Ancedote, the Eternal Batchelor Nihilist


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:00 pm to
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not really concerned about my health after age 60 buddy boyo


continue your circle jerk, while im getting ready to eat a costco pizza, at 11% BF.


inb4 youll get diabetes


Got it. Decent troll, wouldn't read again.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:03 pm to
Yet when news sources come out with the same facts about climate change research, they are dismissed as "radical".
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:07 pm to
Do people really sit around and think "well darn, can't eat this pizza because I might develop diabetes" Just lol

I lift/eat to look good naked boyo. Figured most of us are similar
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16733 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:08 pm to
I'm not on the keto diet and my numbers are better than yours and I still eat sugar.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
In a sea of cognitive dissonance
Member since Mar 2013
11315 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

rocket31


Will respond sincerely at the end of the day
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69181 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:27 pm to
I'm glad i dont have to diet or any of that crap.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290875 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:30 pm to
whats boyo?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 9/15/16 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

ThinePreparedAni


quote:

Hulkklogan


Have either of you guys had any detailed blood work done? Topline cholesterol numbers are useless.
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