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How stupid am I? Just installed 2 GFCIs
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:24 pm
One in the kitchen bathroom and one in my daughter's bathroom.
So proud that I installed safe outlets.
However, in the process of testing them out I discovered both bathroom outlets are already on another GFCI circuit located in other rooms of the house.
I feel really dumb. There's zero value in having more than one GFCI outlet on the same circuit right?
So proud that I installed safe outlets.
However, in the process of testing them out I discovered both bathroom outlets are already on another GFCI circuit located in other rooms of the house.
I feel really dumb. There's zero value in having more than one GFCI outlet on the same circuit right?
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:25 pm
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:27 pm to CAD703X
Depends on how many are on the circuit, a GFI only protects the next 6 down line before you need redundancy
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:35 pm to CAD703X
You can never be too safe
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:46 pm to CAD703X
quote:is that like Rafi's toilet/sink in the league?
kitchen bathroom
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:55 pm to djangochained
quote:
You can never be too safe
Correct me if I’m wrong, but can’t multiple GFIs on the same circuit cause them to trip each other? Or is that when you have a GFI at the box and one at the plug?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:02 am to CAD703X
You could put those little plastic things into the outlets to child proof them
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:23 am to bee Rye
quote:
Depends on how many are on the circuit, a GFI only protects the next 6 down line before you need redundancy
I'm not saying you are wrong, but where did this information come from. I have always understood that a GFCI trips when less current returns than is sent. No matter how many circuits you have afterwards it would not change this.
The only thing that I understood was the more circuits the greater chance for leakage causing it to trip.
Again I'm sorry if I wrong on this. I'm obviously not an expert.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:28 am to CAD703X
quote:I have no clue if this is true or not, but I don't see why redundancy wouldn't add at least a little safety value, being that if one in the bathroom doesn't trip, that maybe the 2nd one would, in the case you genetic offspring drop a toaster in the shower or something.
I feel really dumb. There's zero value in having more than one GFCI outlet on the same circuit right?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:47 am to CAD703X
Did you get them on Amazon? They have a great return policy.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 7:35 am to CAD703X
quote:
There's zero value in having more than one GFCI outlet on the same circuit right?
Only one way to find out.
Reinstall the regular outlet where you installed the GFCI.
Retrieve a fork from the kitchen.
Grasp fork by the non-handle end.
Shove handle into the outlet.
Report your findings, if possible.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:12 am to CAD703X
Are there other outlets protected between them?
If not, change wiring to parallel using a jumper and make them independent. That way the bathroom GFCI is independent of the other circuits in other rooms. GFCI outlets shouldn’t really protect outlets in various rooms. It’s not “illegal”, but it’s not good practice. Makes it very difficult to determine which tripped which outlets.
If not, change wiring to parallel using a jumper and make them independent. That way the bathroom GFCI is independent of the other circuits in other rooms. GFCI outlets shouldn’t really protect outlets in various rooms. It’s not “illegal”, but it’s not good practice. Makes it very difficult to determine which tripped which outlets.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:58 am to Milk
quote:manufacturer recommendations. It's not listed in the NEC, and when that is the case, most AHJ will defer to manufacturer recommendations. Sure, it may still protect more than that, but the redundancy at that point should still be considered safe practice
I'm not saying you are wrong, but where did this information come from. I have always understood that a GFCI trips when less current returns than is sent. No matter how many circuits you have afterwards it would not change this.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:16 am to bee Rye
damn the downvotes.
BTW i hate GFCI outlets.
BTW i hate GFCI outlets.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:24 am to CarRamrod
you can do away with them if you protect the circuit with a GFI breaker FYI
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:27 am to CAD703X
I'd be more worried that you bought them from some dude on ebay named $$starfricker69 based out of Russia
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:28 am to Pettifogger
quote:or that he has a bathroom in his kitchen
I'd be more worried that you bought them from some dude on ebay named $$starfricker69 based out of Russia
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:29 am to CAD703X
I usually end up looking like this when I try to work with electricity:
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:31 am to LSUtigerME
quote:
If not, change wiring to parallel using a jumper and make them independent. That way the bathroom GFCI is independent of the other circuits in other rooms. GFCI outlets shouldn’t really protect outlets in various rooms. It’s not “illegal”, but it’s not good practice. Makes it very difficult to determine which tripped which outlets.
This, you can make the 1st GFCI in the system either protect down the line or just pass through to the next outlet.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:31 am to Pettifogger
quote:
I'd be more worried that you bought them from some dude on ebay named $$starfricker69 based out of Russia
You know him too? I've gotten some cool relics from pre-commie days...Didn't know they had so much stuff made in China back then though.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 10:33 am to CAD703X
quote:
How stupid am I?
Extremely, which is always how shocked I am this was not already a reply in this thread
Real talk though, I hate doing electrical work.
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