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re: How shady is this (real estate situation)?

Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:12 pm to
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It's meant to be a technicality.


Again, it's not the technicality but you acting in bad faith to make that technicality happen to avoid your contractual obligation.

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You are talking all this shite, but really you just don't understand.



I bet I have signed and executed way more purchase, rental, and listing contracts than you ever will.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:12 pm to
I don't hate the dude that bad; I chose my words carefully. He's just a dickhead.

End of the day he could do work to arrange the P&S. I think he will probably hit me up pretty soon anyway in anticipating of negotiating with the Tenant.

At that point I think he and I will do some negotiating.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:14 pm to
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For the OP, it basically comes down to does he like the tenant more than he hates the agent. I wouldn't jump through hoops to try to frick a guy over especially if I signed something.


If he doesn't want to pay the commission then he needs to tell the tenant to move on and he can sell or rent it to someone else. That would mean his original contract is over and he has no obligation to anyone. As it stands, what he is doing is acting in bad faith.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:14 pm to
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No way any attorney could navigate that criminally masterminded scheme. It's so convoluted and brilliant that Danny Ocean is envious of his ability to stay one step ahead of everyone else.



Yeah, even I could figure it out and I barely have a pulse.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32983 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:15 pm to
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I bet I have signed and executed way more purchase, rental, and listing contracts than you ever will.


Really doesn't articulate a legal theory. Acting "in bad faith" doesn't mean you breached a contract. You are talking out of your arse based on your emotional response to the idea.


Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:16 pm to
Look-it's not personal. I just hate people that are unethical in business. I take hits all the time, like monthly, to honor contracts or even verbal agreements. Your word bro, it really should mean something. You have to do what you say you are going to do, or else you are one of them. I am guessing you will make the right decision here and honor your word and leave being a weasel to the weasels.
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:17 pm to
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Yeah, people that I don't like and think are shady. I haven't and won't explain the kind of "off the books" shite he asked me to help him with.


You are claiming he is shady but what you are posting we know you are shady and you are trying to hold yourself to some high regard.

I'd be willing to bet if the IRS took a look at you they would Hoover your nutsack through your a-hole.

I have been in business for 30 years and I know people like you. Always a scam away from hitting it big. Good luck in prison.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:17 pm to
Would it make a difference to you if this guy is more of a weasel than I am proposing to be?

Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:18 pm to
Listen to this man
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:19 pm to
You have it all figured out then. Not sure why you needed the OT advice on it since you are smarter than everyone.

Go for it!
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32983 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:19 pm to
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I'd be willing to bet if the IRS took a look at you they would Hoover your nutsack through your a-hole.

I have been in business for 30 years and I know people like you. Always a scam away from hitting it big. Good luck in prison.




yeah, the IRS would have a ball with me. I have been a W-2 employee all my life and don't have any complicated financial shite.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32983 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:20 pm to
God damn, are you stupid? I didn't ask the OT for a legal opinion. You are the one saying lawyer this and lawyer that.

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:20 pm to
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Really doesn't articulate a legal theory. Acting "in bad faith" doesn't mean you breached a contract. You are talking out of your arse based on your emotional response to the idea.



It's impossible for a contract to cover everything. If it was apparent that the contract intended to cover this situation (where your current tenant purchases at the end of the lease), then you would lose in a law suit.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32983 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:21 pm to
yeah, but being in a lawsuit is different from losing one.

Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
55684 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:21 pm to
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Acting "in bad faith" doesn't mean you breached a contract. You are talking out of your arse based on your emotional response to the idea.



Dude. Your scenario is clearly an attempt to get out of a contract by underhanded means. You would lose if the guy pursued it in court. Just my thoughts on the subject, but I've been practicing real estate law for 29+ years.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:22 pm to
I am telling you that you would lose if he lawyered up and you are being arrogant thinking you have this untouchable technicality.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
86515 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:22 pm to
Nope. You either do the right thing consistently or you don't. Ethical men do, weasels don't.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Really doesn't articulate a legal theory. Acting "in bad faith" doesn't mean you breached a contract. You are talking out of your arse based on your emotional response to the idea.



You're so much smarter than everyone in this thread. Why did you even bother asking if you had your mind made up?
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32983 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:22 pm to
Have you ever encountered this scenario? Have you ever written into a complaint "attempt to get out of a contract by underhanded means"?

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184676 posts
Posted on 11/17/15 at 9:23 pm to
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Just my thoughts on the subject, but I've been practicing real estate law for 29+ years.


You have clearly never faced the likes of baybeefeetz in court. Dude is the Matlock of contract and real estate law.
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