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re: How much can general health do to prevent cancer?
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:10 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:10 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Infant mortality and vaccinations and probably general sanitation. People always think everyone died at 30yrs old but you’re right, if you survived childhood then you had a good shot of living into your 60s.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:15 pm to Spankum
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Just my uninformed thoughts, but I think it is largely genetic. I think exposure to cancer-causing agents (i.e. smoking, asbestos, HPV infection, etc.) can bump that likelihood pretty substantially if the exposure is heavy. I don't think the general state of your health is much of a factor.
This after having many family members die from cancer.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:24 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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So that got me to thinking, how much of just being generally healthy help prevent cancer?
If you live a really unhealthy lifestyle, good chance you will die before cancer can get you.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:29 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Brian Milne
James Conner
Not football, but Mario Lemieux.
James Conner
Not football, but Mario Lemieux.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:29 pm to fishfighter
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This after having many family members die from cancer
Environment plays a role so maybe all those families loved in the same area? Cancer alley and all that.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:31 pm to Strannix
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It’s 99% genetics
It is about 10% hereditary and 90% bad luck. And yes, 99% genetics, or unlucky genetics.
There are certain risk factors that can be managed (diet, exercise, stress, drinking, smoking, tanning, working with toxins, living near toxins, vaccinations, etc) but none of that guarantees someone will or will not get cancer.
Studies have shown (and many oncologists agree) that being diagnosed with cancer really is just getting the short end of the stick.
decent npr article about this topic
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In their new paper in Science, the researchers set out to quantify how often those random errors are an inevitable part of cell division, how often they're caused by nasty chemicals like tobacco smoke and how often they're inherited.
The answer: 66 percent of the total mutations are random, about 29 percent are due to the environment and the remaining five percent are due to heredity.
These numbers vary depending on the type of cancer, they found.
Lung cancer is largely the result of environmental causes, while the vast majority of childhood cancer is a result of these bad-luck mutations, they found.
My numbers may have been a little off.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:33 pm to Strannix
It’s a little more complicated but knowing you are at a higher risk because of genetics might be something everyone should know. Might help may better life decisions
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:36 pm to IllegalPete
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The answer: 66 percent of the total mutations are random, about 29 percent are due to the environment and the remaining five percent are due to heredity.
I can believe this. I just can't see any way where the shite people put in their bodies doesn't play at least a sizeable role in this. I mean, they are essentially poisoning their bodies with each meal, it has to have an effect
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:04 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
We'll never really know, but it can't hurt.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:11 pm to BR Tiger
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BR Tiger
very interesting and informative post!
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:16 pm to IllegalPete
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The answer: 66 percent of the total mutations are random,
Somewhat related..
Postulated that natural background radiation - mostly K40 isotope - is the governing factor for life to evolve. In the early Earth it was seven times higher than current levels.
Too much radiation inhibits anything more than simple organisms and too little doesn't adequately drive the mutations that evolution stems from.
The consequence of this is that life will evolve less, maybe even stop, as natural radiation continues to diminish over time.
https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/k40.html
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:45 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
For guys? I will say this. Most men in my family had prostate cancer, but never died because of it, usually was a heart attack or stroke that got them.
So I would say, No. You can't prevent it.
It was like the recent thread about frick a cancer medicine my family member can't afford. Well... She would have just died sooner. It's always been around.
So I would say, No. You can't prevent it.
It was like the recent thread about frick a cancer medicine my family member can't afford. Well... She would have just died sooner. It's always been around.
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Him and Eric Berry and a few college guys are the only football players that I can think of that have had cancer during their playing careers. Same for the other sports, you don't see many guys it seems get cancer.
Dozens of players from the NFL, MLB, NHL, and other sports have had cancer, remember Lance Armstrong, many died from it. Oral cancer is especially prevalent among MLB players possibly because of "dipping".
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:39 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I think it's mostly determined by moral fitness. Are you still having dirty thoughts, Danny?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:03 am to Mingo Was His NameO
When your ticket gets punched, it gets punched. Try not to stress too much. But processed food is total crap.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 6:48 am to Mingo Was His NameO
If you spend most of your life eating only healthy foods and exercising every day, then get cancer, how much more pissed are you going to be?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 8:57 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Genetics and luck of the draw.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 8:59 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I was at a peak physically and felt invincible, in hindsight. But my body messed up and I got cancer. Two-thirds of cancers are errors in cell replication versus genetic or environmental.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:51 am to BR Tiger
Genetics is a big part, but I think a lot of has to do with diet also . Cancer is much more prevalent today than it was 40-50 years ago. People today don’t have gardens or cook as much as they used to. Most people live off processed food.
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