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re: How much can general health do to prevent cancer?

Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:10 pm to
Infant mortality and vaccinations and probably general sanitation. People always think everyone died at 30yrs old but you’re right, if you survived childhood then you had a good shot of living into your 60s.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:15 pm to
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Just my uninformed thoughts, but I think it is largely genetic. I think exposure to cancer-causing agents (i.e. smoking, asbestos, HPV infection, etc.) can bump that likelihood pretty substantially if the exposure is heavy. I don't think the general state of your health is much of a factor.


This after having many family members die from cancer.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45408 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:24 pm to
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So that got me to thinking, how much of just being generally healthy help prevent cancer?


If you live a really unhealthy lifestyle, good chance you will die before cancer can get you.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:29 pm to
Brian Milne

James Conner

Not football, but Mario Lemieux.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85505 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:29 pm to
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This after having many family members die from cancer


Environment plays a role so maybe all those families loved in the same area? Cancer alley and all that.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:31 pm to
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It’s 99% genetics


It is about 10% hereditary and 90% bad luck. And yes, 99% genetics, or unlucky genetics.

There are certain risk factors that can be managed (diet, exercise, stress, drinking, smoking, tanning, working with toxins, living near toxins, vaccinations, etc) but none of that guarantees someone will or will not get cancer.

Studies have shown (and many oncologists agree) that being diagnosed with cancer really is just getting the short end of the stick.

decent npr article about this topic

quote:

In their new paper in Science, the researchers set out to quantify how often those random errors are an inevitable part of cell division, how often they're caused by nasty chemicals like tobacco smoke and how often they're inherited.

The answer: 66 percent of the total mutations are random, about 29 percent are due to the environment and the remaining five percent are due to heredity.

These numbers vary depending on the type of cancer, they found.

Lung cancer is largely the result of environmental causes, while the vast majority of childhood cancer is a result of these bad-luck mutations, they found.




My numbers may have been a little off.
This post was edited on 10/21/18 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Johnpettigrew
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2017
1766 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:33 pm to
It’s a little more complicated but knowing you are at a higher risk because of genetics might be something everyone should know. Might help may better life decisions
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 8:36 pm to
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The answer: 66 percent of the total mutations are random, about 29 percent are due to the environment and the remaining five percent are due to heredity.



I can believe this. I just can't see any way where the shite people put in their bodies doesn't play at least a sizeable role in this. I mean, they are essentially poisoning their bodies with each meal, it has to have an effect
Posted by QuietTiger
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:04 pm to
We'll never really know, but it can't hurt.
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:11 pm to
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BR Tiger


very interesting and informative post!
Posted by reverendotis
the jawbone of an arse
Member since Nov 2007
4988 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:16 pm to
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The answer: 66 percent of the total mutations are random, 


Somewhat related..

Postulated that natural background radiation - mostly K40 isotope - is the governing factor for life to evolve. In the early Earth it was seven times higher than current levels.

Too much radiation inhibits anything more than simple organisms and too little doesn't adequately drive the mutations that evolution stems from.

The consequence of this is that life will evolve less, maybe even stop, as natural radiation continues to diminish over time.

https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/k40.html
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91576 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:45 pm to
For guys? I will say this. Most men in my family had prostate cancer, but never died because of it, usually was a heart attack or stroke that got them.

So I would say, No. You can't prevent it.

It was like the recent thread about frick a cancer medicine my family member can't afford. Well... She would have just died sooner. It's always been around.

Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 9:57 pm to
About 350.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:14 pm to
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Him and Eric Berry and a few college guys are the only football players that I can think of that have had cancer during their playing careers. Same for the other sports, you don't see many guys it seems get cancer.


Dozens of players from the NFL, MLB, NHL, and other sports have had cancer, remember Lance Armstrong, many died from it. Oral cancer is especially prevalent among MLB players possibly because of "dipping".
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23374 posts
Posted on 10/21/18 at 11:39 pm to
I think it's mostly determined by moral fitness. Are you still having dirty thoughts, Danny?
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4818 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 12:03 am to
When your ticket gets punched, it gets punched. Try not to stress too much. But processed food is total crap.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
24339 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 6:48 am to
If you spend most of your life eating only healthy foods and exercising every day, then get cancer, how much more pissed are you going to be?
Posted by Isabelle81
NEW ORLEANS, LA
Member since Sep 2015
2718 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 8:57 am to
Genetics and luck of the draw.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 8:59 am to
I was at a peak physically and felt invincible, in hindsight. But my body messed up and I got cancer. Two-thirds of cancers are errors in cell replication versus genetic or environmental.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
9538 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 9:51 am to
Genetics is a big part, but I think a lot of has to do with diet also . Cancer is much more prevalent today than it was 40-50 years ago. People today don’t have gardens or cook as much as they used to. Most people live off processed food.
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