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How many rules do you bend for your top performers?

Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:40 am
Posted by Roman Candle Tag
Member since Mar 2016
1450 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:40 am
Employers:
Would you rather have individuals that exceed expectations regularly, yet frick off often (td.com, etcetera)

or diligent, but mediocre workers?

Honest question, not just a start-thread-to-start-thread topic.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38284 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:41 am to
As long as they are overproducing; I’m happy.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75215 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:41 am to
Fake it till you make it
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Member since Dec 2011
46615 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:42 am to
If

quote:

individuals that exceed expectations regularly


Then why would I give a shite about

quote:

yet frick off often (td.com, etcetera)
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37361 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:44 am to
If they're going above and beyond, they can finger their a-hole all day and I wouldn't care.
Posted by RocketPower13
Member since Jan 2017
2480 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:46 am to
Just don't let me catching you fricking off honestly, be on point when I'm around and fulfill your job requirements. Even if someone completes the bare minimum but I never catch them screwing off I'd rather that then someone who's diligent and tries but can't do the job.
Posted by Roman Candle Tag
Member since Mar 2016
1450 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:47 am to
quote:

Then why would I give a shite about 

quote:
yet frick off often (td.com, etcetera)




There are some hard-asses still out there who place compliance unrelentingly above results.
I'm just taking an informal poll, in a way.
Posted by Roman Candle Tag
Member since Mar 2016
1450 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 1:49 am to
quote:

Just don't let me catching you fricking off honestly, be on point when I'm around and fulfill your job requirements. Even if someone completes the bare minimum but I never catch them screwing off I'd rather that then someone who's d

This seems pretty honest.
Thank you.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25644 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 2:07 am to
Over my life, I have learned when you let people break small rules they will more than likely break bigger and bigger rules "as long as the job gets done" and sooner or later I will be calling my E&O carrier with an issue.



Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 2:59 am to
Getting to do pretty much what you want, when you want, is a huge perk. If they perform, let em or get ready to pay em more or face losing them.
Posted by iwantacooler
Member since Aug 2017
2176 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 5:22 am to
Fricking off can become contagious and pretty soon the mediocre workers will think it’s ok for them to do so as well. It also makes it harder to enforce policies on the mediocre worker when you aren’t doing so with the peak performer. It’s a fine line to walk.
Posted by IllegalPete
Front Range
Member since Oct 2017
7182 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 5:39 am to
quote:

individuals that exceed expectations regularly


quote:

yet frick off often (td.com


does not coincide

sorry
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22328 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:23 am to
Generally I prefer A but I can see different standards for different jobs.
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4189 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:54 am to
So they do great work and yet you consider any lag time to be fricking off. That makes you a micro-Manager
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:05 am to
Reading all these work threads makes me realize how much most people’s daily lives are monotonous and shitty
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32963 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:07 am to
You typically are not going to have all high performers or mediocre performers. It’s usually a mixture of some kind. Unfortunately, you rarely get extremes so easily catigorized. It’s a balance between rules that everyone has to follow because someone is mediocre and needs boundaries and flexible time for those who do not.

Employees don’t realize this and hate thier bosses for it.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39012 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:17 am to
I work from home and (try to) solve complex problems (data not existing makes it harder than it should be)...my boss wouldn't care if I only worked from 11pm-5am tweaked out of my gourd. I'm on travel to a clients site next week though...so no tweaking. Project due in three weeks, better be done no matter what...still have no idea how I'm going to work it out. Massive hand waving.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 7:34 am
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18142 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:50 am to
My only requirement is for them to get their job done.

If I cannot rely on an employee, then they are not a fit. I hire people that I can hand a task and they do it or find a way to do it.

My employees can watch YouTube or Netflix for all I care but if something is to be done, that is the priority.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 7:55 am
Posted by TigerV
Member since Feb 2007
2505 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 7:58 am to
Depends on situation. Had a brilliant employee that gave two shits (showed up late, left early, probably played video games at work, and did the minimum for his pay grade). However, when pressure was on he would knock it out of the park in presentations with management, meetings with people outside the company, and regulatory hearings. We were not going to fire him, but had tough discussions that he will not receive promotions until he could perform his potential in a weekly basis let alone daily. We figured we had a hired gun when we needed and he did get some other work done. Also, he could quit (he complained about his pay) but we just told him we know he is lazy and he can leave if he wants but there is not a company out here that will let him get away with what he is doing. I gave him three options: 1) quit, 2) keep being lazy and not get a promotion, 3) be a better employee and the sky is the limit
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8817 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 8:05 am to
My top performers are defined by thought leadership, not a measure of productivity. I practically encourage them to get away for a mid day workout or occasional golf outing - whatever gets them thinking better.
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