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re: How many of you baws are overweight? (chart)

Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:49 am to
Will do short stack
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:50 am to
Here is where I get confused.

What is generally athletic about 5-6 210 lbs? Maybe for a powerlifter but that’s about it. To be optimally athletic you’d want to be 160 at most.

Most here are confusing athletic for “trains like a bodybuilder and maybe plays rec flag football”.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:51 am to
How you gonna add a question to your eta? Poor etiquette. Scruffy knows better.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22546 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 11:52 am to
Yeah but you like soccer...
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:06 pm to
I've been arguing that the normal range goes too low. For 6' I'd argue that 190 could be top of normal, shrinking the range for "overweight." Leave "obese" as is.

Again, waist circumference at about navel level is more helpful. Lucky for you, abdominal fat is far more problematic than your arse fat and thigh fat.

Lastly, imagine if you dropped to 155, the nl range actually drops to 136. That has been my point in my posts. That has nothing to do with being accustomed to fatties. You would look sickly at that weight.
Posted by SmellslikeKevinBacon
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:07 pm to
6’ 205 lbs. and I am no where near fat or over weight.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:13 pm to
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Lastly, imagine if you dropped to 155, the nl range actually drops to 136. That has been my point in my posts. That has nothing to do with being accustomed to fatties. You would look sickly at that weight

This would mean being low fat with low muscle mass too. It certainly isn't "unhealthy" on it's own.
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For 6' I'd argue that 190 could be top of normal,

This is what I'm arguing against. Moving the normal range torards the heavier weights is is promoting fat acceptance and fate being the new normal.

Bmi may not be a good individual indicator, particularly on a selective sample site like the ot, but it is great for mass generalizations of an average population.
Posted by Displaced
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:16 pm to
Post a pic.
Posted by Louie
Locust Grove, GA
Member since Jun 2006
900 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:26 pm to
Played middle linebacker. Power lifted and was very good. 210 yes overweight and need to loos 30 lbs. I've done it multiple times and will again. I will be 185 like I was in high school and never was considered over weight by anyone...

These charts are skewed for insurance companies.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:27 pm to
I’m assuming most of these 6-2 220 lb studs played college ball somewhere if they are actually athletic like they claim.
Posted by Louie
Locust Grove, GA
Member since Jun 2006
900 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:29 pm to
No high blood pressure, no high cholesterol, and can still keep up with my kids that will be on scholarship for athletics.

I lose 20-30 lbs. every year, then gain it back. Even when I'm this big it is proportional to my legs and chest. When it goes down it is like in high school and I look great.

This chart again is strictly for insurance companies..
Posted by Louie
Locust Grove, GA
Member since Jun 2006
900 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:31 pm to
Some guys gain good weight easy. Some don't. Seems like you and I do. It does get harder to lose, but really I've just always been athletic.

These charts are for insurance companies to make more money period.
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:32 pm to
jeebus didn't realize so many fat baws were gonna get upset
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:34 pm to
this isn't the oppression Olympics. quit bitching and get on a treadmill.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

I’m assuming most of these 6-2 220 lb studs played college ball somewhere if they are actually athletic like they claim.


Prolly depends on what "athletic" means. I've always said I'm an athlete, but not athletic; that's why I do (did) endurance sports and some boxing. I'm 6'4" and 215# with a 35-36" waist, but no visible abs or ripped arms.

Definitely not "overweight" like how the chart puts me.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:34 pm to
Fair enough. But you are an outlier and the fact is your athleticism would have shot through the damn roof if you got down below 160 but like you said you were a powerlifter and MLB so that would have been detrimental. But it goes to show you are an extreme outlier.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78024 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

I'm 6'4" and 215# with a 35-36" waist, but no visible abs or ripped arms.

Definitely not "overweight" like how the chart puts me.

Sigh...
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
6586 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:36 pm to
6'1 and 144 pounds is normal. pft yeah whatever. this chart is shite.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:37 pm to
“Athletic” generally means the ability to run fast over a short distance, jump high, change directions quickly and be reactive.

People considered “overweight” generally are very bad at these things. The ones that excel at them despite being overweight play in the NFL.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:38 pm to
It is seriously the same thing over and over and over...
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