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re: How long could Germany have fought in WW1 if food wasn't a problem?
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:24 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:24 pm to fr33manator
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What if we join the Axis and have the effect of softening them up a bit. No death camps, allow many the “undesirables” to resettle to camps in America.
Help Japan expand into east Asia and overthrow the Chinese communists.
Help Germany overthrow the Soviets. Replace Hitler with a more level headed nationalist.
Could have actually worked out
I wouldn’t be pissed. Then again, I wasn’t alive during those times. I honestly wish that the eastern front would’ve last three more years. Let the fascists and communists kill more of each other. Net gain for everybody if ya ask me. Hell, if the Nazis don’t get stopped at Stalingrad, I think they beat the Russians and we might not even get involved.
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:46 pm to prplhze2000
Gotta have soldiers to eat that food
Posted on 1/28/18 at 10:47 pm to fr33manator
quote:it absolutely wouldnt
What if we join the Axis and have the effect of softening them up a bit. No death camps, allow many the “undesirables” to resettle to camps in America.
Help Japan expand into east Asia and overthrow the Chinese communists.
Help Germany overthrow the Soviets.
Replace Hitler with a more level headed nationalist.
Could have actually worked out
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:15 pm to prplhze2000
might have been nice to have them waste a couple million more of their Nazi breeders for WWII but hindsight is 20-20
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:37 pm to Breesus
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better question is what if the USA teamed up with Japan and Germany instead of the Allies in WWII?
Well when we got into the war Germany had overtaken all of Europe and only Great Britain was left fighting them, and they were hanging on by a thread.
If the US had been in the Axis powers the Axis would easily have won
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:41 pm to fr33manator
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Replace Hitler with a more level headed nationalist.
no nationalist is level headed
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:55 pm to Ping Pong
fact of the matter is, once americas entrance in the war became imminent, the germans should have bargained from a relative position of strength for a peace that was a relatively whole lot more kind to them. had that happened, germany doesnt fall into the abyss during the 20s and hitler probably never comes along. but they went for the all out death blow instead with the spring offensive and then they had nothing to stand on when it came to negotiating peace from a position of equal strength with the allies
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:57 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Apparently there was enough tension even then to have in the cards of after the end of WW2, WW3 breaks out within months/couple of years between the Allies and Russia.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 11:57 pm to prplhze2000
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How long could Germany have fought in WW1 if food wasn't a problem?
Until a month or so after Truman took office.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:12 am to deltaland
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Well when we got into the war Germany had overtaken all of Europe and only Great Britain was left fighting them, and they were hanging on by a thread.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:25 am to prplhze2000
Probably another year. Maybe into the spring of 1920.
The Russians pulled out of the war, freeing up the German Eastern Front forces and allowing them to move to the west. Nothing much was happening in the south. The French forces were on the verge of revolt. Fresh American troops began to arrive.
The Americans were only just starting to really get into the action in strength in the last four of five months prior to the November armistice. I believe a well-fed German army could have held out until the winter of 1919.
The Germans and the Allies have another tit-for-tat spring and summer offensives in 1919 as had been done in previous years. If there is a lull in the fighting in the winter of 1919, the Allies could perhaps finish the Germans off with a spring offensive in 1920 if the German population is fed up with the meat grinder of a war by then.
The Russians pulled out of the war, freeing up the German Eastern Front forces and allowing them to move to the west. Nothing much was happening in the south. The French forces were on the verge of revolt. Fresh American troops began to arrive.
The Americans were only just starting to really get into the action in strength in the last four of five months prior to the November armistice. I believe a well-fed German army could have held out until the winter of 1919.
The Germans and the Allies have another tit-for-tat spring and summer offensives in 1919 as had been done in previous years. If there is a lull in the fighting in the winter of 1919, the Allies could perhaps finish the Germans off with a spring offensive in 1920 if the German population is fed up with the meat grinder of a war by then.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 12:38 am
Posted on 1/29/18 at 12:37 am to STLDawg
Reminds me of a game that came out years ago called Iron Storm. It took place 50 years after WWI, which in the game never ended. Interesting premise if you think about it.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 6:30 am to Ping Pong
Bismarck was
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:06 am to prplhze2000
They could have "fought" a good bit longer. They probably couldn't have won because of the influx of Americans and the decline of the Austrians and Ottomans but they could have held their defensive positions and killed a lot more Allies.
The lack of food and materials due to the blockade was the main source of angst for both soldiers and civilians. Remove those obstacles and morale would have remained at least sustainable for a while longer. Germany wasn't the only one dealing with an absurd amount of casualties.
The lack of food and materials due to the blockade was the main source of angst for both soldiers and civilians. Remove those obstacles and morale would have remained at least sustainable for a while longer. Germany wasn't the only one dealing with an absurd amount of casualties.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 7:09 am
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:17 am to prplhze2000
Meh, not sure they would have held out much longer.
Maybe they retreat into Germany, dig in their heels, and put up a defensive stand that gets them better terms to end the war on; but I don't think food was the biggest problem at the end.
However, move that food supply up a few years so that it isn't a problem in late 1915/1916 and you've got a whole new ball game.
Maybe they retreat into Germany, dig in their heels, and put up a defensive stand that gets them better terms to end the war on; but I don't think food was the biggest problem at the end.
However, move that food supply up a few years so that it isn't a problem in late 1915/1916 and you've got a whole new ball game.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 7:38 am to prplhze2000
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Bismarck
Idk how he did what he did. Dude was an incredible politician.
Posted on 1/29/18 at 8:06 am to deltaland
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Well when we got into the war Germany had overtaken all of Europe and only Great Britain was left fighting them, and they were hanging on by a thread.
If the US had been in the Axis powers the Axis would easily have won
I wonder if our military would have become what it is today. The Germans and Naps kicking our arse in the early battles is what made us realize that we had to beef up our military
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:01 am to prplhze2000
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Suppose Germany had all the food it needed for its population and military. How much longer would it have fought?
Had this been the case I think the war could have dragged out another year, maybe two. The deciding factor at that point would be attrition. But who would break? Yes, Germany was suffering debilitating casualties. But so were the French and British. In fact, France has already come to the brink of total collapse even before 1918. The crux of the matter is that while Germany was at the end of their rope by 1918, so were the British and French. So while the Allies would have life infused into their war efforts thanks to American Dougboys, would that be enough to sustain both France and Brititan for another year or two? Would one or perhaps both our European Allies decide to seek a negotiated peace with the German Empire? I think it’s entirely possible. Not likely, but possible.
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 9:04 am
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:01 am to Darth_Vader
Shut up
Posted on 1/29/18 at 9:04 am to Breesus
What’s your problem?
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