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re: How long can a Generac run before I need to change the oil?

Posted on 8/31/21 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48554 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 7:00 pm to
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There are definitely a lot of proud new owners of the Generac GP6500 in the past several days.




I inherited a little Honda 2000 watt generator when my parents got a home generator.

This is one divine piece of engineering. WOW.

This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 7:01 pm
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20582 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 9:10 pm to
What do y’all think about letting a generator run out of gas at full load? I don’t see where my generator’s manual advises against it, but reading a lot of stuff online that says you shouldn’t.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34739 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 9:19 pm to
There are liquid cooled but "Dat's Money Dude"
This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 9:21 pm
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
3069 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:24 pm to
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Would it help if I put a fan on it with the box closed? Just trying to help that little baw all I can.


I will put it this way. Go take your riding mower and remove all the air shrouds and blow a fan on it while you cut the grass. The average fan is not going to move the CFM that the unit needs to cool properly. You are also not just cooling the engine, you are also cooling the generator head, controls, and exhaust. Cooling air usually is sucked in through the generator head first to cool it then over the motor and blown out over the exhaust. You are cooling three separate parts. Open the doors and something is not going to get cooled properly.

It’s also an air cooled engine, it will run hot as F period. Keep it closed, or not, it’s your $4,000.

I have not read a generjunk manual, but I can assure you the Cummins/Onan manuals say to run their air cooled units with the access panels closed or overheating will occur.

Or get a water cooled unit. My 30 KW runs at 180 under full load normally, but I have hit 195 on really hot days. Engine is quiet as can be, it’s just the massive radiator fan that screams like a banshee.

This post was edited on 8/31/21 at 11:26 pm
Posted by jampat
Denham Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2007
11121 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 11:30 pm to
Portable 6500 you have to change the oil after the first 30 hours and then 100 hours there afterwards
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34739 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 7:27 am to
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I will put it this way. Go take your riding mower and remove all the air shrouds and blow a fan on it while you cut the grass. The average fan is not going to move the CFM that the unit needs to cool properly. You are also not just cooling the engine, you are also cooling the generator head, controls, and exhaust. Cooling air usually is sucked in through the generator head first to cool it then over the motor and blown out over the exhaust. You are cooling three separate parts. Open the doors and something is not going to get cooled properly.

It’s also an air cooled engine, it will run hot as F period. Keep it closed, or not, it’s your $4,000.

I have not read a generjunk manual, but I can assure you the Cummins/Onan manuals say to run their air cooled units with the access panels closed or overheating will occur.

Or get a water cooled unit. My 30 KW runs at 180 under full load normally, but I have hit 195 on really hot days. Engine is quiet as can be, it’s just the massive radiator fan that screams like a banshee.


i dunno about cummins or onan but i do know that the generac doesnt do anything specific with its housign and I dont give a frick what they say. Proof is in the pudding. After laura on the older 20kw models....leaving the housing on = burnt stepping motor over and over. pulling the housing helped.

on the generac, the housing is just there for sound damping. there is nothing special about it.

the new 22kw generacs with the stainless stepping motors dont seem to have that problem.

and yea water cooled is the way to go. Which one do you have?
Posted by WavinWilly
Wavin Away in Sharlo
Member since Oct 2010
8830 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 8:03 am to
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lsu777


Any experience with bad brushes on 18-22kw Generac air cooled?

Is it a part that can just be replaced repeatedly as it fails until Generac can replace the unit under warranty (I guess they will do that anyway).
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34739 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:08 am to
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Any experience with bad brushes on 18-22kw Generac air cooled?

Is it a part that can just be replaced repeatedly as it fails until Generac can replace the unit under warranty (I guess they will do that anyway).


im not. only saw one generator after laura doing that and we couldnt get parts to work on it.

ftr im just a dumbass plant engineer but had a lot of expierence after laura on teh air cooled generacs.

i would imagine though you could just keep replacing them. But i would imagine if you replace them once correctly that it should be fine.

also everyone needs to understand that generac does not reocmmend air cooled for warm climates anymore. so if you are looking for the future...get air cooled.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:09 am to
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I pay a premium fee for yearly maintenance that translates to an extended warranty.


The $500-$600 per year is worth it just to have someone to GTF over there and fix it if it fails after a storm. And because I don't trust myself to remember to test the darn thing when the weather is nice.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:10 am to
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generac does not reocmmend air cooled for warm climates anymore. so if you are looking for the future...get air cooled


liquid cooled. Which means 2700w or larger now, but they are coming out with smaller liquid cooled models.

The 2700w has a 4 cylinder automotive engine with a full radiator. I think it's a Mitsubishi engine.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
15112 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:15 am to
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iquid cooled. Which means 2700w or larger now, but they are coming out with smaller liquid cooled models.

The 2700w has a 4 cylinder automotive engine with a full radiator. I think it's a Mitsubishi engine.


I have an old coleman 25kw liquid cooled ford 4 cyl truck engine. Love how quiet it is compared to an air cooled generac.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:16 am to
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Rest it every two hours to keep the spark arrestor from clogging up.

Cranking the engine is more stressful on the machine and letting it run
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40406 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:20 am to
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I have no idea what Im doing, but I'm going to take apart the entire thing.


That’s a can do attitude.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40406 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 9:26 am to
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lubricity


Word of the day nominee.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
11918 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:45 pm to
My 60 year old wife needs lubricity
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1627 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 5:11 pm to
I have a Kohler and it needs to be changed after 100 hours. We checked it today(72 hours at 7pm tonight) and it was almost a quart low. Filled and tech will be out to change tomorrow.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25988 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 5:59 pm to
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have a Kohler and it needs to be changed after 100 hours. We checked it today(72 hours at 7pm tonight) and it was almost a quart low. Filled and tech will be out to change tomorrow.

Im also running a Kohler and we just hit 72 hours continuous. I plan on shutting it down tomorrow early AM and change the oil. Luckily it was just serviced last month.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4857 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 6:17 pm to
100 hours on my 11kw
Posted by LSwho84
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2015
171 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 6:25 pm to
Not sure which size or model Generac you are referring to. My dad runs a 20KW air cooled standby, company he hired to install it told us 250hrs(10 days) between oil changes. Dad can’t get around much, they offered to come do the oil change for him.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
79550 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 6:31 pm to
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Not sure which size or model Generac you are referring to. My dad runs a 20KW air cooled standby, company he hired to install it told us 250hrs(10 days) between oil changes.


22kw here. My dealer told me Generac recommends a max of 200 hrs and they usually shoot for 175 hrs.
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