re: How Government-Guaranteed Student Loans Killed the American Dream for Millions

I was about 6 months ago. But I would do what i had to to make money.

The statement I replied to is pretty sad. Give up basically and except your paper pusher job. Screw that. I would go for a blue collar job that paid more and gave me self satisfaction

Not to be cliché, but this is the "participation trophy" society come to roost.

Judge Smalls was right...the world needs ditch-diggers too.

College used be for the very well off (who didn't need financial assistance), or the high academic achieving "others" (who did need such aid, but who the schools realized deserved the help to reward those deserving). For those on the edges, there was "State U" where you could go, booze it up for 4-5 years, get a degree (maybe) and then go on to a white collar existence.

In the late 70s/early 80s, there was still nobility in labor and the trades. Then, it became "gauche" and "low class" to be a blue collar worker. You HAD to go to college, or you were worthless. It's bullshite.

The low paying ones are in my book.

Where are the Old Economy Steve memes?

I've been tempted to cash in my retirement, take the tax hit, and just pay off my debt to clean the slate. I'd be a lot less stressed having that extra income to build the savings.

I'm still young enough to where I can start over on retirement and be ok.

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I had loans, too. I had Federal aid, TOPS, scholarships, and I still had to take out loans. But I got a physics degree and married someone who got a masters without paying a dime.

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The truth comes out. Baw prob. had 10-12K in loans, and with all that education doesn't realize he's comparing apples to oranges.

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Because they are raised by retard baby boomers

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if we're generalizing here such as you did with paper pushers, i'd say that most people capable of getting to college don't want to turn wrenches in the heat, climb around in attics, or fix shitters. those jobs DO pay well and people still don't take them.

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Which is why everyone on this board hates plant operators

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The vast majority of operators that have been hired by any major in the last 5-10 years have degrees or Military experience.

I had this discussion with some coworkers and a customer pretty high up in a larger refining company. We talked about how more kids needed to look at trades as opposed to college and all agreed some kids aren’t cut out for college and shouldn’t go there.

I ended the conversation with this though, I’m doing everything possible to make sure all my kids go to college, my coworkers both sent all of their kids through college, and the refining customer had his kids at private colleges. We were all saying everyone else’s kids needed to go to trade school, but mine still needed to go to college.

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I am so sick of hearing this BS.

I used student loans. I paid them off in 3.5 years and I started off my first job out of college making $10/hr.

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This could be the most ignorant post I've seen to date.