re: How do you respond to those who say that gun control is the answer???

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Same argument I make to people who feel the need to walk around armed all the time.

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And what argument is that?

Good thing Paris had strong gun laws...

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The question that should be asked is: Would stricter gun control possibly prevent any of those suicides? in other words, might some of those lives be saved because by the time they determined other means some form of intervention took place?

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How would you change guns laws to reduce gun suicides? What would make a notable difference?

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How do u respond to these people who think that the problem is our laws and not the individual?

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I don't know anybody that stupid. Literally everyone realizes that there's a problem with an individual who starts shooting people. Unless and until we can make sure there aren't any crazy people (and for God's sake definitely don't give them any free mental health care), the best bet might be to keep them from having guns.

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Would stricter gun control possibly prevent any of those suicides? in other words, might some of those lives be saved because by the time they determined other means some form of intervention took place?

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The answer is no. One thing you don't understand is that suicidal behavior covers a wide spectrum of those that merely claim to be suicidal to those that are dead set on killing themselves. Those that choose a firearm are almost invariably in the the latter part of the spectrum. Studies have show a distinct substitute effect on firearm-related suicides after Australia passed restrictive gun-control laws post-Port Arthur shooting in 1996. So people who would have killed themselves with a firearm are also willing to commit to another method, most cases hanging themselves.

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But I do like facts, and statistics....so I thought the graph was interesting at any rate

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Then don't post things that are sourced by the Brady Campaign, Violence Policy Center, Everytown, MAIG, Americans for Responsible Solutions, and anyone that receives grant funding from the Joyce or Kennedy Foundations.

See I like substantive information I can rely on to back things up....any chance you have a link on that study? Seems interesting on a variety of fronts whenever I might have the chance to read...

Ask her if she thinks the ban on drugs has prevented the spread of illegal drugs. If she says no, she's deluded. If she says yes, then draw the parallel.

The overwhelming majority of gun owners follow the law. If you have a relative few bad apples, you control them, not the people who follow the law. And modern technology will make what gun control laws we have even more unenforceable. I can buy a 3-D printer and the appropriate toner on Amazon, plug in a design, and print out an operable gun with ammo. I don't have to buy anything else, I don't have to leave my house, and voila, I have a gun. Ask her what law will stop that?

And finally, if initial reports are true, the shooters used automatic weapons. Fully automatic weapons have been banned in this country since 1934.

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Ask her what law will stop that?

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we should tax the carbon credits that were used in the creation of the 3-D printer billable directly to the manufacturers - especially those who dare choose non-union labor - and then clearly we should BAN ALL PRINTERS

problem solved.

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I don't know the stats but how much gun violence is either from drug deals gone bad or a mentally ill person killing people?

As it stands now there is no mental health system in the US. If a person has mental problems there also is no way for a hospital or whomever else is able to share that information. So, when a dealer does a background check if a person is mentally ill the FBI has nowhere to find that information.

Fix the mental health system and if a person is mentally ill make it possible for law enforcement agencies to have that information.