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How Do You Feel About Edward Snowden? Traitor Or Patriot?

Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:08 pm
I am reading his book 'Permanent Record' and he is an intelligent guy who truly believed he was doing the right thing when he turned over all of the government documents he was able to obtain to a media source so they could report them.

He felt that the US government shouldn't be able to access anything they wanted to on every single citizen and that they were doing this without the knowledge and permission from the people.

Or do you think that what the government was doing (and continues to do) is a necessary evil? Or did the government use 911 to justify doing more than they need to?
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85538 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:08 pm to
He’s my hero
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
23130 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:09 pm to
he is probably good but is still annoying as frick
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:09 pm to
Patriot, frick the government for illegally spying on us
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122527 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:10 pm to
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is still annoying as frick



Why do you think he is annoying?
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
6699 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:10 pm to
Patriot.
But here come all the "small government conservatives" to call him a traitor
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:10 pm to
Oweo is claptrap.


But he did what many more should do. And will one day, I dont think the united states will be around in 100 years.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 1:13 pm
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26328 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:11 pm to
If you are not doing anything wrong who cares if they spy on you?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33900 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:11 pm to
Patriot
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:12 pm to
Why have curtains on your windows if you’re not doing anything wrong?
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
6699 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

If you are not doing anything wrong who cares if they spy on you?


Told you.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33900 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:13 pm to
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But here come all the small government conservatives to call him a traitor

Why would they? They hate the government and want it to have as little power or control as possible. What Snowden did reduced the power and control of government
Posted by whitetiger1234
They/Them
Member since Oct 2016
6699 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:14 pm to
Thats the point.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 1:32 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

If you are not doing anything wrong who cares if they spy on you?


Until they alter the definition of what is and isnt "wrong"...and then lie about it.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
198020 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:15 pm to
Neither

it needed to be exposed but he put American lives and interests at unnecessary risk


he did not need to share as much intel to accomplish he stated goal
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50841 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

If you are not doing anything wrong who cares if they spy on you?

you need some new material
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:16 pm to
This is a new topic here
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Neither


Has to be something, he definitely doesnt live in a gray area and his life reflects drastic consequences of his actions.

So maybe hes both?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68603 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:19 pm to
Had he not gone scorched earth I'd be more sympathetic but he just did too much damage
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

If you are not doing anything wrong who cares if they spy on you?


Because, like it or not, what is legal and illegal is subjective to the whims of who holds power. Is being a Jew wrong? Is being gay wrong? Is ingesting a plant wrong? Are the people in Hong Kong who are just trying to maintain the freedoms their constitution grants them wrong?
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