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Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:25 am to TDsngumbo
Got any of these Saw Palmetto plants on there?
If so, she's a wetland.
If so, she's a wetland.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:31 am to TDsngumbo
start building on it.
COE will be on you like stink on shite.
COE will be on you like stink on shite.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:41 am to Sneaky__Sally
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the Army Corps has become less strict and more development friendly recently
This is news to me. Literally no one I talk to has had a good experience with them. If it’s even somewhat in doubt they will try to designate something a wetland and the new Charleston Method is an absolute joke.
I have heard that different districts can be more and less accommodating, though. Perhaps we’re just unlucky over here.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:43 am to Supermoto Tiger
Those or cypress trees, stumps or knees.
Best thing to do is contact the Corp of Engineers to have a wetlands determination done.
Best thing to do is contact the Corp of Engineers to have a wetlands determination done.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:46 am to TDsngumbo
Call tenfoe
Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:52 am to Decisions
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If it’s even somewhat in doubt they will try to designate something a wetland and the new Charleston Method is an absolute joke. I have heard that different districts can be more and less accommodating,
was trying to develop some land in Palm Beach County, Fl a few years ago with a couple of friends, the CoE tried to make us do a study to see if it could be a possible habitat for some rare, protected, supposedly near extinct, bird, they could find no evidence that the bird had ever even taken a fly by shite on the land so they wanted us to set up a device that would lure the bird to the land, so even though there was zero evidence of the bird having nested there, they wanted us to draw it onto the land, thereby killing the project, after dealing with a few hurdles like that we just abandoned the project, frick the CoE
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:53 am to TDsngumbo
If it's in St. Tammany dont worry. If it is a wetland it's just one more under the table check you will have to cut. As long as you pay enough you can get a permit for anything anywhere.
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 10:57 am to 777Tiger
In general, a lot of that shite is probably by design. Especially depending on who was running the COE or EPA at that moment.
It’s not about figuring out whether something should or shouldn’t be done as much as making the process as ornerous as possible to justify their own existence.
It’s not about figuring out whether something should or shouldn’t be done as much as making the process as ornerous as possible to justify their own existence.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:00 am to 777Tiger
This is the kind of stuff I’d like to see my senators and representatives crack down on.
We have become so environmentally gun-shy that no one can so much as bury their dog without getting permission from the government.
It’s honestly taking a serious toll on rural communities by stifling their ability to develop and grow.
We have become so environmentally gun-shy that no one can so much as bury their dog without getting permission from the government.
It’s honestly taking a serious toll on rural communities by stifling their ability to develop and grow.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:01 am to TDsngumbo
If there are palmettos growing on it, then it’s a wetland. The reality is that the Army Corps of Engineers must make a determination if the property is not already listed on one of their maps. One of the big tests they use is looking at the types of vegetation growing on the property. If palmettos can (and do) grow on it, it’s a wetland. Thus, if you need a determination, and you don’t want it to be a wetland, kill every palmetto plant you can find and dispose of them completely before the Corps comes out.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:03 am to Decisions
Ya that was anecdotally, and I am not directly involved with that aspect, so there could have been some under the table action i'm not privy to resulting in the good experience.
Also, to the OP, if you have to get the corps involved understand it will be about a year before you have an answer.
Also, to the OP, if you have to get the corps involved understand it will be about a year before you have an answer.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:03 am to teke184
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as much as making the process as ornerous as possible to justify their own existence.
oh they were tPOS when I was there, you had to get their permission to trim your mangroves, they would limit the size of dock/slip you could build on your property, hell, they put a farmer in jail, that had been begging for permission for years, to cut to cut down a Brazilian Pepper tree on his land that was sucking up his irrigation water, for finally just saying frick it, and cutting it down
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:03 am to eng08
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Crawfish burrows on it? Wetlands gras? Slightly acidic/sulfur smelling soil?
Lots of palmetto plants growing on it?
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It’s likely wetlands.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:04 am to kingbob
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Thus, if you need a determination, and you don’t want it to be a wetland, kill every palmetto plant you can find and dispose of them completely before the Corps comes out.
But know that if you do this, and get caught / they find evidence of prior wetlands, you will be on the hook for the cost of mitigation and fees / penalties. Mitigation cost is like $33,000 an acre or something like that.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:05 am to TDsngumbo
Palm fronds? Wetlands.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:07 am to TDsngumbo
If you’re a redneck with limited assets you are probably 99%+ safe to just do what you want. But if you have a decent net worth you should get a wetlands delineation report done, it cost us about $2,000. Area has to have hydric soils, hydrophytic vegetation, and water on or near surface for some portion of time to be classified a wetland. You can’t rely on any wetlands inventory map. Do not inquire with government agencies about it, they are incentivized to cover their a**, not help you. It’s a racket but just part of doing business these days. You don’t really own land, you just rent it from the government.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:08 am to Sneaky__Sally
The COE sounds like a pain in the arse. Yes, it has a few palmettos on it and according to the property owner it used to be covered with them 45 years ago.
I may just pass on this since it doesn’t sound like it’s going to be worth the fight.
I may just pass on this since it doesn’t sound like it’s going to be worth the fight.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:18 am to TDsngumbo
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Area has to have hydric soils, hydrophytic vegetation, and water on or near surface for some portion of time to be classified a wetland. You can’t rely on any wetlands inventory map. Do not inquire with government agencies about it, they are incentivized to cover their a**, not help you. It’s a racket but just part of doing business these days. You don’t really own land, you just rent it from the government.
Best advice in this thread. Site development engineering is what I do. Have a good wetlands consultant contact if you want it.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 11:18 am to Supermoto Tiger
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Got any of these Saw Palmetto plants on there?
If so, she's a wetland.
Not necessarily. The land I bought to build on is delineated and is about 60% upland. ALL of it has saw palmetto, "upland" area too.
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