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re: How different of a world do we live in if the Germans develop the atomic bomb 1st?

Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:56 am to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 10:56 am to
We don't get Star Trek
Posted by sabbertooth
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:00 am to
quote:

The Evidence A captured Photographic technician, Unteroffizer Wolf Baumgart, was interrogated by the US Ninth Air Force and his testimony was recorded by the A.P.W.I.U. Report 44/1945. In that report Baumgart is quoted claiming that a Ju-390 flew from Mont de Marsan, France, to within 12 miles of New York city. He further stated that photographs were taken of the city's skyline. The same A.P.I.W.U report also references corroboration by a more senior Luftwaffe officer, who added that the Ju-390 had an in-flight endurance of 32 hours.
Posted by BillyTheKid
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:02 am to
We're watching the last season right now. Great show!
Posted by Areddishfish
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:04 am to
Man in the High Castle
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:08 am to
People would have to show papers indicating their agreement with the party in order to travel, board airlines, work, attend college, possibly even to do activities of daily life.

Cant even imagine living in a world like that.
Posted by TutHillTiger
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:40 am to
Well there are no Jewish people
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:42 am to
Poliboard posters would be right at home
Posted by AUstar
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:48 am to
Germany had one of the top theoretical physicists working for them: Werner Heisenberg. Heisenberg was nominated by Einstein and others for the Nobel prize in 1932 (which he won).

He never fled the country like many of his colleagues and supposedly was working for the Nazis. However, a lot of people today believe he was never a Nazi and was actually trying to sabotage the German bomb program from the inside. Heisenberg was friends with lots of Jewish physicists, so his allegiance to the Nazis is in question. But what we do know is he never fled Germany and stayed at his academic position there. It has been said that the Americans and Brits had a plot to assassinate him.

Yes, this is the same Heisenberg of "uncertainty principle" fame. One of the founding fathers of quantum mechanics.

Posted by Breauxsif
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:49 am to
Russia certainly would have been nuked during the first phases of the war.
Posted by Dizz
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:50 am to
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The Germans had a bomber in research that could, in theory, fly a round trip flight from Germany to NYC to drop its payload.



They didn't need a round-trip bomber they would gladly have made it a one-way trip to nuke DC or NYC.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:53 am to
US would still have a been world power but Germany rather than Russia would have dominated Eastern Europe with France and Britain having to play nice. Horrors of the Holocaust mostly get swept under the rug.

Fascism rather than communism would have been the enemy of the West for decades. We wouldn’t have organizations like the UN today (this would be a positive outcome actually)
Posted by EverettScott
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 12:05 pm to
Even if sabotage and resources weren't an issue. Delivery of a device was. They'd have to build it unmolested. They'd have to build a plane that could deliver it.
They would have to defend the plane as it crossed to Paris(after liberation) or London.
Their best bet would be attempting to atomize a chunk of a Russian Front.

Miniaturization wasn't an option yet and they'd have one shot. With none of the economy the USA put behind it saying "yolo, let's build on both theories."

ETA: Thinking of all those psyops the Brits pulled. Holy shite. Hitler might have nuked the rubber tank army or had it waiting to greet the invasion at the wrong coast if he wanted to attempt to stall that western front opening, push out the Americans and Canadians from going full cause with the Brits.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 12:18 pm
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