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re: How did Japan and South Korea beat COVID?

Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:44 pm to
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AUS is also an island and while there is a lot of land, a lot of that land is desert


To be fair, the original explanation was comparing the land mass sizes. That's irrelevant at best and hurts the argument for the US at worst. Higher population densities = higher cases, all else being equal.

Fact of the matter is they did better than were doing, and the causes are multifaceted.
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
12064 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:45 pm to
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How did Japan and South Korea beat COVID?


They are two of the most racist countries in the world.

Very intolerant of outsiders.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:45 pm to
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How did Japan and South Korea beat COVID


Island, strict border control
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by GRIZZ
Morgan City
Member since Nov 2009
6237 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:46 pm to
They quit testing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:46 pm to
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They probably aren’t having an election this year. It will be amazing how Covid goes away if a Democrat is in office.


The fact so many presumed Republicans believe this makes me embarrassed to be a Republican.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42268 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:47 pm to
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South Korea is having a major second wave, last i checked


You mean, numbers spiked after a prolonged lockdown?
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16823 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:49 pm to
Their women average 5'2 110lbs. US women average 5'5 200lbs.

Their men 5'6 130lbs. US men 5'8 240lbs.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:50 pm to
Japanese and Korean people wore masks way before COVID fwiw
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
51928 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:51 pm to
They also kill themselves at a legendary rate
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41211 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:54 pm to
You're not wrong but....




Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:55 pm to
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They are two of the most racist countries in the world.

Very intolerant of outsiders.


Depends on the area in South Korea.

I couldn't get into a club in Seoul called "The Magic Cajun" where they shamelessly used Paul Prudhomme's likeness on the sign. They didn't allow any foreigners in.

Then again I drunkenly tried to convince the doorman I was Chef Paul's nephew and didn't like how they were using his likeness without his permission.

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Japanese and Korean people wore masks way before COVID fwiw


Can't say for Japan but in Seoul the smog was so bad and why some people wore masks. Then again this was 20 years ago and maybe 1 out of 10 would.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 9:57 pm
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:00 pm to
Sensu Beans. And Dendai.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57856 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:02 pm to
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By being a homogenous population with extremely strict border control and a populace that loves authoritarian rule



Get that logical and reasoned answer the hell out of here.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70004 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:05 pm to
Easy answer

Small population that is largely homogenous with a long life span.

Japanese culture is still one that is highly submissive to authority
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
14662 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:06 pm to
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The USA has been pretty firmly authoritarian


You really should travel the world a bit.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:21 pm to
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Get that logical and reasoned answer the hell out of here.


It's just a fancy Poliboard way of saying they followed the rules that everyone here says are useless.

You can't have it both ways.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79925 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:23 pm to
Didn't they force positive people to stay home and put holds on the credit cards of contacts amongst other dictatorial actions?
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161246 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:26 pm to
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Then there is Japan's refusal to heed the advice of the World Health Organization (WHO) to "test, test, test". Even now, total PCR tests stand at just 348,000, or 0.27% of Japan's population.

Nor has Japan had a lockdown on the scale or severity of Europe. In early April, the government ordered a state of emergency. But the stay-at-home request was voluntary. Non-essential businesses were asked to close, but there was no legal penalty for refusing.



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Tokyo University professor Tatsuhiko Kodama - who studies how Japanese patients react to the virus - believes Japan may have had Covid before. Not Covid-19, but something similar that could have left behind "historical immunity".

This is how he explains it: When a virus enters the human body, the immune system produces antibodies that attack the invading pathogen.

There are two types of antibody - IGM and IGG. How they respond can show whether someone has been exposed to the virus before, or something similar.

"In a primary (novel) viral infection the IGM response usually comes first," he tells me. "Then the IGG response appears later. But in secondary cases (previous exposure) the lymphocyte already has memory, and so only the IGG response increases rapidly."

So, what happened with his patients?

"When we looked at the tests we were astonished... in all patients the IGG response came quickly, and the IGM response was later and weak. It looked like they had been previously exposed to a very similar virus."

He thinks it is possible a Sars-like virus has circulated in the region before, which may account for the low death rate, not just in Japan, but in much of China, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong and South East Asia.


This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 10:28 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:41 pm to
No countries have beat it. Many just decided to move on
Posted by Doctor Strangelove
Member since Feb 2018
3426 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:43 pm to
Need to find a safe space ASAP?
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