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re: How can American society fix this mass shooter phenomenon?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:46 pm to stout
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:46 pm to stout
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what they truly think of gun owners
that wasn't a comment on gun owners, it just came off as a platitude that would easily rile up a crowd
quote:maybe, but it seems odd that if the majority of people there wanted that then they wouldn't be putting forth pro-gun candidates (AGAIN NOT A COMMENT ON HOW I FEEL ABOUT GUNS)
If a vote were held on it today I 100% bet the outcome would be different.
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:47 pm to Tiger1242
These school shootings started in the mid 90s.
Some changes have occurred in our society that I think enhanced these events.
There’s a lack of social interaction among a larger percentage of boys that started in the 90s, that didn’t exist in the 70s and 80s.
The invention of first person shooter games has desensitized boys to these horrific acts. Don’t get me wrong, I love these games, but I swear these flip a switch in certain people’s brains.
We’ve always had mentally unstable people in our society, so this isn’t a new problem.
There’s always been plenty if guns available, so this isn’t the ultimate problem.
Bullying existed since the beginning of time, but kids in the past learned how to deal with these issues in a mature way, instead of cracking and shooting op a school.
Social media, and all the horrible competition and unkind things people post, has not helped the mental health of teens today.
This problem is incredibly complex, and no simple solution will fix it.
Some changes have occurred in our society that I think enhanced these events.
There’s a lack of social interaction among a larger percentage of boys that started in the 90s, that didn’t exist in the 70s and 80s.
The invention of first person shooter games has desensitized boys to these horrific acts. Don’t get me wrong, I love these games, but I swear these flip a switch in certain people’s brains.
We’ve always had mentally unstable people in our society, so this isn’t a new problem.
There’s always been plenty if guns available, so this isn’t the ultimate problem.
Bullying existed since the beginning of time, but kids in the past learned how to deal with these issues in a mature way, instead of cracking and shooting op a school.
Social media, and all the horrible competition and unkind things people post, has not helped the mental health of teens today.
This problem is incredibly complex, and no simple solution will fix it.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:47 pm to Tiger1242
No we can’t, and there is always a 3rd one
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:48 pm to ghost2most
You do realize that over 60% of gun crimes are committed with firearms that were illegally procured? So tell me…..what do we do about the MAJORITY of gun crimes?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:49 pm to Grinder
I teach middle schoolers and many of them do not value life, do not even comprehend taking a life’s consequences. When we read a nonfiction text about someone dying or harmed and we talk about the mood, they pick “indifferent”. I try my hardest to make them upstanding citizens but their parents do not monitor their phones, video games, TV or their parents are already dead from drugs and their grandmother is raising all of them.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:50 pm to Tiger1242
Nearly every mass shooting occurs somewhere that carrying a weapon is illegal, but where there exists no effective barrier for weapons to be carried into, and most murders of folks Where neither the murderer nor victim know one-another occur either coming from or going to a place where guns are not allowed. Murderers and criminals are opportunistic, purposely choosing to attack targets that are less likely to be armed in turn.
In my opinion, no place should be permitted to ban the carry of weapons on that property unless they actually put forth measures to check people coming in for weapons and offer a facility where people can leave their guns while they’re there. People should be taught marksmanship and gun safety in schools, and people should voluntarily carry guns when and where they want to protect themselves.
The only thing that stops a criminal with a gun is a good person with another gun. If you want to make a “gun free zone”, that should be more than just a “pinky swear” not to bring guns in.
In addition, we need to go back to locking up crazy people instead of just medicating them and sending them back into the world.
Finally, we must abolish the FBI and CIA. These institutions have ties to nearly every prominent mass shooter. This is usually due to the FBI refusing to investigate when people alert them to the shooter’s activities leading up to the mass murder, but the end result is the same.
In my opinion, no place should be permitted to ban the carry of weapons on that property unless they actually put forth measures to check people coming in for weapons and offer a facility where people can leave their guns while they’re there. People should be taught marksmanship and gun safety in schools, and people should voluntarily carry guns when and where they want to protect themselves.
The only thing that stops a criminal with a gun is a good person with another gun. If you want to make a “gun free zone”, that should be more than just a “pinky swear” not to bring guns in.
In addition, we need to go back to locking up crazy people instead of just medicating them and sending them back into the world.
Finally, we must abolish the FBI and CIA. These institutions have ties to nearly every prominent mass shooter. This is usually due to the FBI refusing to investigate when people alert them to the shooter’s activities leading up to the mass murder, but the end result is the same.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:51 pm to Tiger1242
Only one entrance into the school building with an armed policeman with a pump shotgun in his lap and a backup guy roaming, with radio, armed.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:52 pm to Grinder
I remember Columbine and the one in Jonesboro, AR in the late 90s. Not sure how many others I remember back then.
The shootings specific to schools seem more common in the past 15-20 years for sure.
The shootings specific to schools seem more common in the past 15-20 years for sure.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:54 pm to Slagathor
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maybe, but it seems odd that if the majority of people there wanted that then they wouldn't be putting forth pro-gun candidates
As I said, that is changing
Australians are banned from buying GUNS after a huge surge in people trying to get hold of firearms in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic
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Victorians have been banned from purchasing guns after permit applications increased amid fears of the coronavirus pandemic.
Police Minister Lisa Neville said at a press conference on Tuesday the number of people attempting to access firearms and ammunition had doubled.
The minister and the National Cabinet decided to pause the sales of firearms and ammunition for sporting or recreational purposes.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:55 pm to ghost2most
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Get caught with an unregistered gun and you get a life fricking sentence.
Lol
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:57 pm to Bronc
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Guns aren't the problem, how is this so hard for idiots to comprehend
Explain why the country with the largest ease of access and proliferation of guns has such outsized numbers of mass shootings while the rest of the developed world does not?
I agree, access to guns doesn't do anything to stop the problem, but it also isn't the cause of the problem. Millions have access to guns everyday and could go on a shooting spree on a whims notice. Why don't they? Crazy people having access to guns aren't killing people because they have access to guns.
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Does spouting Replacement Theory qualify as a committable offense? What about if you post a lot about the election being stolen and think DC must be "cleansed?" Just curious how the logistics of this will work?
I don't know what replacement theory is, but the politics crap....absolutely not. I think it would be best that qualified doctors handle the final decision on who's crazy. It shouldn't be crazy until proven normal though. It shouldn't be the decision of a single doctors diagnosis of mental illness either.
You take away the guns people completely disregard the 2nd ammendment which was written for a necessity that still exists today.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:57 pm to ghost2most
no step
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:58 pm to Tiger1242
Hold enablers accountable.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:58 pm to stout
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The same people that tell us men can get pregnant and that there are 800 different genders and none of that has to do with mental health will now be telling us who is mentally fit under your proposition. How do you think that makes sense.
You are making my argument for me. All of this gender shite (and yes I agree, its complete lunacy) you refer to IS political. We both agree that politics should be taken out of the lawmaking process, especially as it applies to mental health. As I stated, I do feel the chance of that happening is non-existent. Regardless, none of that takes away from the fact that something needs to be done at the legislative level regarding mentally ill people who pose a danger to society.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:58 pm to thotpocket
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literally no one in here doesn't want to protect kids, but you are acting on emotion like a little bitch, instead of coming up with an actual plausible solution. retard.
Don't fool yourself. They are plenty of groomers and groomer supporters in the OT. It is the most liberal thread on the rant.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 5:59 pm to Kay
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I teach middle schoolers and many of them do not value life, do not even comprehend taking a life’s consequences. When we read a nonfiction text about someone dying or harmed and we talk about the mood, they pick “indifferent”. I try my hardest to make them upstanding citizens but their parents do not monitor their phones, video games, TV or their parents are already dead from drugs and their grandmother is raising all of them.
I agree. There’s an emotional disconnect among young people today that we didn’t see years ago. It’s very disturbing, and the lack of 2 parent households has played a major role in this, in my opinion.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:00 pm to Grinder
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There’s an emotional disconnect among young people today that we didn’t see years ago.
Many of them are hopped up on Prozac, Adderall, etc vs years ago.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:00 pm to stout
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The same people that tell us men can get pregnant and that there are 800 different genders and none of that has to do with mental health will now be telling us who is mentally fit under your proposition
BINGO!
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:01 pm to Steadyhands
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I think it would be best that qualified doctors handle the final decision on who's crazy. It shouldn't be crazy until proven normal though. It shouldn't be the decision of a single doctors diagnosis of mental illness either.
We as a nation have become far too tribal in our political beliefs, particularly with respect to guns, that I honestly don't feel comfortable leaving anyone's right to own a gun up to someone else's subjective beliefs.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 6:02 pm to Tiger1242
Why the hell should we have to overhaul every aspect of our lives to account for the possibility that a mass shooting could occur?
Why not instead of thinking up extreme preventative measures like armed teachers, or passing legislation that will just get ignored, or committing billions in mental health funding with no real direction, we simply just vow to actually raise our kids to not be nihilists or criminals? How about we commit to monitoring their social media intake until they’re mature enough to not have their brains warped?
That’s something every single parent can do right now, and it would make a huge difference in the long run. But millions of Americans won’t do it, because we’re all just fat lazy pieces of shite that want the government to fix our problems.
A nation with the same amount of guns but with less assholes who don’t value life won’t have as many shootings as we do now.
Why not instead of thinking up extreme preventative measures like armed teachers, or passing legislation that will just get ignored, or committing billions in mental health funding with no real direction, we simply just vow to actually raise our kids to not be nihilists or criminals? How about we commit to monitoring their social media intake until they’re mature enough to not have their brains warped?
That’s something every single parent can do right now, and it would make a huge difference in the long run. But millions of Americans won’t do it, because we’re all just fat lazy pieces of shite that want the government to fix our problems.
A nation with the same amount of guns but with less assholes who don’t value life won’t have as many shootings as we do now.
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