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re: How big a blunder was it for Coleman / Igloo not to invent the Yeti style cooler?

Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:13 am to
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Those companies pretty much owned the cooler market but didn't recognize that people would be willing to pay real money for a high quality ice chest.



Not sure how much money Yeti makes selling stickers and Hats to Baws, seems like there really are not that many of the actual coolers running around.

Apparently there are only so many dimwhits.
Posted by TypoKnig
Member since Aug 2011
8928 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:16 am to
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I'm not sure people would have paid $400 for an existing brand due to perception. Part of Yeti's success is the perception that they are high quality because they only make expensive ones.


Good point.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:22 am to
Most big companies are full of red tape, bureaucracy, and have to do a year's worth of market research before innovating anything.

They are beholden to legions of stockholders, thus way too cautious.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31859 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:32 am to
Yeah, Igloo and Coleman are really hurting because of Yeti...

Unfortunately, you need to look like this guy to carry one....

This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 10:41 am
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:32 am to
Have the Walmart brand. It's awesome and paid under $100

LINK
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12431 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:37 am to
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Of course it's a blunder, they lost market share


I'd venture that just as many blunders start with thinking you can capture 100% of the market instead of understanding where and how you fit.

I won't pretend to know the cooler game well but it seems the type of situation where it takes an outside innovator to make this initial shakeup introducing a "lifestyle" product and then people start looking to the existing brands to fill similar quality at a more reasonable price
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37664 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:38 am to
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They missed a new market.



What if they weren't interested in a new market? What if they just decided they wanted to keep selling their original products at a decent price point to their consumers and maintain profitability?
I understand what you're saying, but just because they don't offer that product doesn't mean they "missed".

I own a few Igloos. I'll never buy a Yeti (anything). They didn't "miss" me.
Posted by LongueCarabine
Pointe Aux Pins, LA
Member since Jan 2011
8205 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:45 am to
Coleman's problems really aren't with their ice chests, although they could make them better IMHO.

I think they've abandoned or neglected a good bit of their traditional market, and it is a mistake. In the past they stood for quality lanterns, stoves, and other camping gear.

To me they are now becoming just a mass-market manufacturer, not concentrating on their own brands, but making cheap crap for lesser companies to sell.

The quality of their traditional camping equipment is not as good, and they are branching out into other areas that are silly, to be honest.

Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103412 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:51 am to
Igloo makes coolers in the same vein as Yeti or RTIC...

LINK



They let other companies prove the concept of the expensive ultra-quality cooler and jumped on before it's too late.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31859 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:54 am to
Igloo and Coleman should use adds with the phrase...

"Ice is Cheap"

or

"Ice is Inexpensive, so are our Coolers..."
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 10:59 am
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:03 am to
Nah....you let an up and coming company take the risk and pay for all the R & D, marketing, and proof of concept.

Once the product is successful. You use your attorneys to get around the patent....roll out your version....and increase you stock price.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107843 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:04 am to
Is it a blunder that McDonalds missed the craft style expensive burger craze that swept the market

Is it a blunder that Ford never entered the high dollar vehicle market?


Sometimes, sticking to what you know is the best play.
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
4157 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:06 am to
We have a large yeti cooler that the wife got through work...have never used it.
Posted by LSUsuperfresh
Member since Oct 2010
8512 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:09 am to
Im in the process of creating a portable mini-fridge. The current prototype will retail for around $1,500 but yeti has already paved the way for this to become an acceptable price to pay to keep drinks cold. The only hang up right now is none of them have held up when I run them over with a tank. That's definitely a must in today's market.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107843 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:12 am to
Yeti is useful for one thing, going on a boat. When I see dumbasses lugging one around campus tailgating, I lose some respect for their ability to make a decision
Posted by Dick Jacket
Member since Nov 2016
1574 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:14 am to
Coleman and igloo could have made the same thing first and it would probably have not performed as well.

Yeti is successful because it's products are associated with a niche outdoor lifestyle. It's really no different than Orvis, North Face or Patagonia. Products that served a niche for a long time and then people wanted them to know that they were into (or posing as) rugged outdoorsman or fly fisherman. Yeti has associated its brand with deep sea fishing and as an outfitter for camping.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:16 am to
I would be glad to pay double the cost of any igloo for one with double thickness insulation and much better hinges. make it with the same plastic construction, just thicker and a "little" stronger lid. no need to be able to park a car on it but make the lid realistically double as a seat like it often gets used as.

but I sure as hell would not pay over $60 for ANY ice chest, under any situation, no matter how super great it is.

there is a huge market opportunity there for a company to make THAT product and they would put yeti and K2 as well as igloo and coleman out of business if they made it.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 11:22 am
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:17 am to
Yeah I'd like to know the ratio of:

A) people actually using them to keep things cold for a week

to

B) people using them for tailgating and telling their friends "I paid $400 for it but it can keep my beer cold for an entire week if I don't open it."

Gotta be pretty low.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:19 am to
I mean, it's not a blunder like Blockbuster not purchasing NetFlix.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107843 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:21 am to
I personally think keeping beer colder for a week is bulkshit. I have seen one at our hunting camp and it was no better than our Coleman

Also, the YouTube tests out there prove this too

I only like them for a boat because them being obnoxiously heavy make for a stable platform for stand and fish on
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