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re: How big a blunder was it for Coleman / Igloo not to invent the Yeti style cooler?
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:13 am to weagle99
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:13 am to weagle99
quote:
Those companies pretty much owned the cooler market but didn't recognize that people would be willing to pay real money for a high quality ice chest.
Not sure how much money Yeti makes selling stickers and Hats to Baws, seems like there really are not that many of the actual coolers running around.
Apparently there are only so many dimwhits.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:16 am to dbeck
quote:
I'm not sure people would have paid $400 for an existing brand due to perception. Part of Yeti's success is the perception that they are high quality because they only make expensive ones.
Good point.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:22 am to weagle99
Most big companies are full of red tape, bureaucracy, and have to do a year's worth of market research before innovating anything.
They are beholden to legions of stockholders, thus way too cautious.
They are beholden to legions of stockholders, thus way too cautious.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:32 am to weagle99
Yeah, Igloo and Coleman are really hurting because of Yeti...
Unfortunately, you need to look like this guy to carry one....
Unfortunately, you need to look like this guy to carry one....
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 10:41 am
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:32 am to weagle99
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:37 am to yellowfin
quote:
Of course it's a blunder, they lost market share
I'd venture that just as many blunders start with thinking you can capture 100% of the market instead of understanding where and how you fit.
I won't pretend to know the cooler game well but it seems the type of situation where it takes an outside innovator to make this initial shakeup introducing a "lifestyle" product and then people start looking to the existing brands to fill similar quality at a more reasonable price
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:38 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:
They missed a new market.
What if they weren't interested in a new market? What if they just decided they wanted to keep selling their original products at a decent price point to their consumers and maintain profitability?
I understand what you're saying, but just because they don't offer that product doesn't mean they "missed".
I own a few Igloos. I'll never buy a Yeti (anything). They didn't "miss" me.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:45 am to tigerinthebueche
Coleman's problems really aren't with their ice chests, although they could make them better IMHO.
I think they've abandoned or neglected a good bit of their traditional market, and it is a mistake. In the past they stood for quality lanterns, stoves, and other camping gear.
To me they are now becoming just a mass-market manufacturer, not concentrating on their own brands, but making cheap crap for lesser companies to sell.
The quality of their traditional camping equipment is not as good, and they are branching out into other areas that are silly, to be honest.
I think they've abandoned or neglected a good bit of their traditional market, and it is a mistake. In the past they stood for quality lanterns, stoves, and other camping gear.
To me they are now becoming just a mass-market manufacturer, not concentrating on their own brands, but making cheap crap for lesser companies to sell.
The quality of their traditional camping equipment is not as good, and they are branching out into other areas that are silly, to be honest.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:51 am to tigerinthebueche
Igloo makes coolers in the same vein as Yeti or RTIC...
LINK
They let other companies prove the concept of the expensive ultra-quality cooler and jumped on before it's too late.
LINK
They let other companies prove the concept of the expensive ultra-quality cooler and jumped on before it's too late.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 10:54 am to LSUBoo
Igloo and Coleman should use adds with the phrase...
"Ice is Cheap"
or
"Ice is Inexpensive, so are our Coolers..."
"Ice is Cheap"
or
"Ice is Inexpensive, so are our Coolers..."
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:03 am to weagle99
Nah....you let an up and coming company take the risk and pay for all the R & D, marketing, and proof of concept.
Once the product is successful. You use your attorneys to get around the patent....roll out your version....and increase you stock price.
Once the product is successful. You use your attorneys to get around the patent....roll out your version....and increase you stock price.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:04 am to hendersonshands
Is it a blunder that McDonalds missed the craft style expensive burger craze that swept the market
Is it a blunder that Ford never entered the high dollar vehicle market?
Sometimes, sticking to what you know is the best play.
Is it a blunder that Ford never entered the high dollar vehicle market?
Sometimes, sticking to what you know is the best play.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:06 am to hendersonshands
We have a large yeti cooler that the wife got through work...have never used it.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:09 am to weagle99
Im in the process of creating a portable mini-fridge. The current prototype will retail for around $1,500 but yeti has already paved the way for this to become an acceptable price to pay to keep drinks cold. The only hang up right now is none of them have held up when I run them over with a tank. That's definitely a must in today's market.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:12 am to LSUsuperfresh
Yeti is useful for one thing, going on a boat. When I see dumbasses lugging one around campus tailgating, I lose some respect for their ability to make a decision
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:14 am to weagle99
Coleman and igloo could have made the same thing first and it would probably have not performed as well.
Yeti is successful because it's products are associated with a niche outdoor lifestyle. It's really no different than Orvis, North Face or Patagonia. Products that served a niche for a long time and then people wanted them to know that they were into (or posing as) rugged outdoorsman or fly fisherman. Yeti has associated its brand with deep sea fishing and as an outfitter for camping.
Yeti is successful because it's products are associated with a niche outdoor lifestyle. It's really no different than Orvis, North Face or Patagonia. Products that served a niche for a long time and then people wanted them to know that they were into (or posing as) rugged outdoorsman or fly fisherman. Yeti has associated its brand with deep sea fishing and as an outfitter for camping.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:16 am to weagle99
I would be glad to pay double the cost of any igloo for one with double thickness insulation and much better hinges. make it with the same plastic construction, just thicker and a "little" stronger lid. no need to be able to park a car on it but make the lid realistically double as a seat like it often gets used as.
but I sure as hell would not pay over $60 for ANY ice chest, under any situation, no matter how super great it is.
there is a huge market opportunity there for a company to make THAT product and they would put yeti and K2 as well as igloo and coleman out of business if they made it.
but I sure as hell would not pay over $60 for ANY ice chest, under any situation, no matter how super great it is.
there is a huge market opportunity there for a company to make THAT product and they would put yeti and K2 as well as igloo and coleman out of business if they made it.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 11:22 am
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:17 am to lsupride87
Yeah I'd like to know the ratio of:
A) people actually using them to keep things cold for a week
to
B) people using them for tailgating and telling their friends "I paid $400 for it but it can keep my beer cold for an entire week if I don't open it."
Gotta be pretty low.
A) people actually using them to keep things cold for a week
to
B) people using them for tailgating and telling their friends "I paid $400 for it but it can keep my beer cold for an entire week if I don't open it."
Gotta be pretty low.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:19 am to weagle99
I mean, it's not a blunder like Blockbuster not purchasing NetFlix.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:21 am to dbeck
I personally think keeping beer colder for a week is bulkshit. I have seen one at our hunting camp and it was no better than our Coleman
Also, the YouTube tests out there prove this too
I only like them for a boat because them being obnoxiously heavy make for a stable platform for stand and fish on
Also, the YouTube tests out there prove this too
I only like them for a boat because them being obnoxiously heavy make for a stable platform for stand and fish on
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