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re: Houston cop tries to arrest wrong black man playing with his dog/kids in front of his home

Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by DoctorO
BTR
Member since Jun 2010
296 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:50 pm to
That is correct.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:51 pm to
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If an officer has reasonable suspicion you have committed a crime


I'm not seeing any reasonable suspicion here.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:54 pm to
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Depends on the totality of all the circumstances.

Without all the information pertaining to the situation, how can you determine what's reasonable or not?


It's like you're saying words just to say them.

Black guy with dreads is a criminal. Cop sees black guy with dreads and thinks "oh, it must be that criminal!"

There's your totality of all the circumstances.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:58 pm to
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It's like you're saying words just to say them.

Black guy with dreads is a criminal. Cop sees black guy with dreads and thinks "oh, it must be that criminal!"

There's your totality of all the circumstances.


Simmer down.

I was just pointing out the legal standard for an officer to identify someone in this type of situation.
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
16212 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 8:35 pm to
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When a cop sees someone he thinks fits the description of a wanted criminal, what is he supposed to do?

Do you think when cops walk up to actually wanted guys that they ever say, "Nah man, that's not me, but I ain't giving you no ID" ??

In this case, the cop should not have approached the man until the other officer with the picture arrived. The cop was certain that the man was the fugitive. Even if he had produced an ID, do you really think the cop would have backed down? Fugitives can have fake IDs or multiple IDs under different aliases.
Posted by LSUERDOC
Member since Jul 2013
2608 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 8:45 pm to
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Texas law states you're not legally required to unless you're arrested.


Or pulled over for valid reason while operating a motor vehicle...or if the officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person committed, or is about to commit, a crime.
Posted by ntrcptr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
672 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 10:10 pm to
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. They just stupid



Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet pot.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37016 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 10:57 pm to
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No reason to


Not allowing a simple case of mistaken identity escalate into something shitty is a pretty good reason.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
39643 posts
Posted on 6/7/19 at 11:31 pm to
Dude is a dumbass for not showing his ID
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7922 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 12:27 am to
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Dude is a dumbass for not showing his ID


This response being parroted over and over had to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen.

Who in the frick is carrying their wallet in their gym clothes while playing with their kids in the yard

"Honey you seen my wallet?"

"No why? Where you going?"

"Just in the yard to play with junior"

"Why do you need your wallet?"

Just in case cops show up and mistake me for a guy that has my hairstyle because they decided to do the bare minimum of police work before confronting me on the basis of yep he looks close enough. Complying with demsands of public servants of course always take precedent over my civil rights you know"

"Gotcha, check in the bathroom I might have seen it there
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 6/8/19 at 6:27 am to
Yeah I'd be pissed too. The bootlickers will say he should have complied but the dude is basically trying to not get kidnapped.
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