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re: Hospital nurse arrested after refusing illegal blood draw order
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:40 am to Salmon
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:40 am to Salmon
quote:You can bet all of the, "Just do what he said" posters will all of a sudden change their mind in this thread.
Nurse should have just done what the cop said, AMIRITE?
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:42 am to YipSkiddlyDooo
quote:
Um we draw blood from unconscious trauma patients all the time even when none of those things apply
Who is "we"?
And it's obvious that the policy doesn't apply to routine health matters, but rather third parties, including police, wanting it drawn.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:43 am to NYNolaguy1
This is why so few people like cops. I feel bad for the cops out there doing it the right way. They really should stand up to douchbags with badges like this or their good name is going to be soiled. Shitbags like this are turning people against law enforcement. :(
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:45 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
The watch commander told him to arrest her if he cant get blood samples, even though he knew there was no warrant, and no probable cause. The cop should have said "thats illegal" and he should be punished for that, but the real fault lies with the watch officer, who most likely will get at worst a reprimand with a paid leave (vacation).
If he had issue with it he should've called his watch commander to clarify when she refused (and rightfully so). Not snatch the nurse up when she was clearly following hospital policy and patient privacy laws.
That nurse and supervisor knows that if they allow that blood draw, of a victim mind you, that it would be their asses in a heartbeat as well.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:47 am to YipSkiddlyDooo
quote:
Um we draw blood from unconscious trauma patients all the time even when none of those things apply...good for that nurse tho
There's a distinct difference in a hospital drawing blood to assess the well-being of a patient versus a cop coming in without a warrant wanting blood drawn. Especially when it wasn't even a suspect of a crime at this point.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:48 am to shel311
quote:
You can bet all of the, "Just do what he said" posters will all of a sudden change their mind in this thread.
The LEO's weapon wasn't drawn you moron.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:48 am to SCLibertarian
quote:
They wanted his blood sample to prepare a comparative negligence defense to try and get out of a lawsuit that they thought would be forthcoming.
...and instead created another one. What a fricking moron. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, right?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:51 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
False arrest, loss of pay, mental anguish, loss of freedom...
#1, False Arrest isn't a damage.
#2, She didn't lose any pay more than likely. If she did, it's minimal.
#3, Everything else is not going to amount to much.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:55 am to Golfer
quote:Says the person who ASSumed I was only talking about when the LEO's weapon was drawn.
The LEO's weapon wasn't drawn you moron.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:56 am to shel311
quote:
Says the person who ASSumed
I would ASSume, that most people who say "just do what they tell you to" are referring to a situation slightly different than the one presented in the OP.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:57 am to moneyg
quote:
#1, False Arrest isn't a damage.
#2, She didn't lose any pay more than likely. If she did, it's minimal.
#3, Everything else is not going to amount to much
She can also file a 1983 claim in fed court for deprivation of rights. Knowingly arresting someone under false charges would certainly qualify. The discovery in that case would be entertaining.
My guess is the police dept would throw enough money her way to bury this quickly.
Eta: besides the actual law, often times perception and the court of opinion determines how this plays out. It would be terrible politics for them to fight her in court over this. The local govt and police would be raked over the coals daily by the public and media if it actually goes to court. It wont get there.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 10:03 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:09 am to NYNolaguy1
Cop was way, way out of line ans should be fired. More likely he will get a couple weeks paid time off.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:10 am to Epic Cajun
quote:I wouldn't, that nurse was following the law by not doing what a cop is telling her to do.
I would ASSume, that most people who say "just do what they tell you to" are referring to a situation slightly different than the one presented in the OP.
Again, not talking about guns drawn, but we've only seen a bunch of threads where a person follows the law and their rights, and so many posters say screw their rights, just do what the cop says.
Different scnearios, sure. But the same rule should apply if you want to remain consistent, you can't just pick and choose when you say you should just listen to the cop.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:10 am to Fat and Happy
quote:
That's normally done.
When a crash results in a death or serious injury, blood is always drawn.
There is nothing illegal about it.
People may not like it but it's how the process is done.
You're wrong.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:11 am to shel311
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say screw their rights, just do what the cop says.
Your rights stop the second a cop tells you to do something.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:13 am to LucasP
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:15 am to shel311
quote:
I wouldn't, that nurse was following the law by not doing what a cop is telling her to do.
That nurse was protecting the rights of an individual that she has a legal obligation to.
quote:
you can't just pick and choose when you say you should just listen to the cop.
Sure you can. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:16 am to SabiDojo
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A crash where one is seriously injured and another dead.
Most states have mandatory blood draws in those types of crashes
I was hit by a drunk driver and when they took her to the hospital (she fought them) the officer told me they can collect a blood sample without her consent once she's admitted.
My guess is the nurse is in the wrong unless the laws in Utah are different than the state of la.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:19 am to NYNolaguy1
Add IIED to that.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:19 am to theCrusher
They can once they get a warrant
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