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Honest question - someone explain to me all the emphasis on testing
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:50 am
Seems like everyone from the federal guideline group to the states and beyond are focused on testing.
Sure, in a perfect world everyone or a solid majority will get tested in a relatively condensed window of time. However, it appears certain that simply won't happen and probably isn't possible. I don't see how they can make that a prerequisite of opening things.
Plus, without universal or at least very widespread testing, it seems like any test is just a snapshot. You can test negative today and get exposed and get it tomorrow. I'm not sure how finding out scattered groups of people don't have the virus at different points in time helps the overall picture.
Antibody testing is another thing. That would show that you have had it and are likely immune. But from what I can gather that's not the kind of testing most people are talking about. Also, I think that is even rarer than just the have it or don't have it testing.
Sure, in a perfect world everyone or a solid majority will get tested in a relatively condensed window of time. However, it appears certain that simply won't happen and probably isn't possible. I don't see how they can make that a prerequisite of opening things.
Plus, without universal or at least very widespread testing, it seems like any test is just a snapshot. You can test negative today and get exposed and get it tomorrow. I'm not sure how finding out scattered groups of people don't have the virus at different points in time helps the overall picture.
Antibody testing is another thing. That would show that you have had it and are likely immune. But from what I can gather that's not the kind of testing most people are talking about. Also, I think that is even rarer than just the have it or don't have it testing.
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:54 am to Methuselah
I wouldn't get so hung up on it if I were you. Once they get the testing they'll say that there is something else that we need before we open.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:57 am to Methuselah
how can your post be truth?
president said months ago if you want a test you can be tested.
did he lie?
or is he a fool?
one or the other
or both?
on top of all you point to, its looking like some tests for antibodies are fake, just profiteering.
president said months ago if you want a test you can be tested.
did he lie?
or is he a fool?
one or the other
or both?
on top of all you point to, its looking like some tests for antibodies are fake, just profiteering.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:58 am to Methuselah
It is a way for them to stall. And for useful idiots to think they sound smart.
Every single OT medical professional and epidemiologist who has posted here over the last 3 months have been dead wrong.
Their 15 minutes of feeling important is over, time to get back to normal.
Every single OT medical professional and epidemiologist who has posted here over the last 3 months have been dead wrong.
Their 15 minutes of feeling important is over, time to get back to normal.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:01 am to Methuselah
quote:
I don't see how they can make that a prerequisite of opening things
to me the rapid response mass testing is more applicable for large sporting events, concerts, disney, etc. We'll have the majority of businesses open and running long before that becomes practical
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:05 am to Methuselah
With more testing, there is more data to analyze. It opens the door for virus tracing to try and determine how and why it is spreading. It also allows testing of asymptomatic people, and the chance to quarantine the if they have a positive test result.
A lot of businesses around here are already requiring a negative test before workers who have shown symptoms can come back to work. I would guess that as more areas and businesses start opening up, that demand for tests is going to increase significantly.
A lot of businesses around here are already requiring a negative test before workers who have shown symptoms can come back to work. I would guess that as more areas and businesses start opening up, that demand for tests is going to increase significantly.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:17 am to Methuselah
quote:
That would show that you have had it and are likely immune.
Not necessarily immune. Maybe resistant. Also, like the flu there is the likely scenario of mutations...
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:18 am to Methuselah
the scared people want everyone who has had it to wear a scarlet C. so they "feel" safe
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:28 am to Methuselah
Easy way to get a DNA sample on ERRYBODY
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:29 am to Methuselah
It's how schools justify the need to move Braxton to the next grade.
Braxton's parents are going to hold him back though so he can have an advantage over the other kids on the diamond.
Jokes on them though, because Beaux's parents are doing the same.
Braxton's parents are going to hold him back though so he can have an advantage over the other kids on the diamond.
Jokes on them though, because Beaux's parents are doing the same.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:31 am to Jinglebob
Definitely not a Russian or Chinese shill right here.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:34 am to saturday
quote:Moving the goalposts to maintain a shutdown and keep the economy hamstrung is becoming an art form popularized by morons.
I wouldn't get so hung up on it if I were you. Once they get the testing they'll say that there is something else that we need before we open.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:37 am to Methuselah
I started a thread asking the same thing and never got an answer. Widespread testing of the asymptomatic is not practical, and as you point out is just a snapshot in time result. You could get the test and then catch the Covid before you even got the results back.
The antibody tests are interesting from a scientific standpoint, but are of very little utility in deciding to open back up.
As best I can tell, the calls for "testing" are just another roadblock to opening back up.
The antibody tests are interesting from a scientific standpoint, but are of very little utility in deciding to open back up.
As best I can tell, the calls for "testing" are just another roadblock to opening back up.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:37 am to saturday
quote:
I wouldn't get so hung up on it if I were you. Once they get the testing they'll say that there is something else that we need before we open
Like a vaccine from Bill Gates.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:38 am to SloaneRanger
quote:
As best I can tell, the calls for "testing" are just another roadblock to opening back up.
Except that the calls for them predate the shutdowns.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:38 am to Titus Pullo
thats a no for me dawg
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:40 am to Nado Jenkins83
Not just no, but Hellllll No.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:41 am to Methuselah
We will see a lot of direct patient care personnel that was positive. They could've easily been passing it all around at work and at home.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:00 am to Methuselah
If you're a decision maker, it's better to always have more data. This is true regardless of the feasibility of getting it.
We used a sledge hammer to try to contain this thing, and now don't know s**t other than
a) A whole lot of people packed together = easy spread
b) A whole lot of people staying at home with businesses shut = not easy spread
Ideally (and I don't trust anybody in charge to actually do this), if you get a handle on exactly how this spreads and how it doesn't, you can optimize the level of precaution needed at the population level to keep a rebound spike to a manageable level, keeping politicians from wanting to break out the sledge hammer again.
We used a sledge hammer to try to contain this thing, and now don't know s**t other than
a) A whole lot of people packed together = easy spread
b) A whole lot of people staying at home with businesses shut = not easy spread
Ideally (and I don't trust anybody in charge to actually do this), if you get a handle on exactly how this spreads and how it doesn't, you can optimize the level of precaution needed at the population level to keep a rebound spike to a manageable level, keeping politicians from wanting to break out the sledge hammer again.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 10:02 am to CelticDog
quote:
president said months ago if you want a test you can be tested.
My assumption here is he doesn't think 350 million people want to get tested.
It's kind of like Obama saying everyone will have healthcare. Was he lying or just that stupid?
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 10:04 am
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