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re: Homicides in East Baton Rouge reach all-time high
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:45 pm to jdeval1
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:45 pm to jdeval1
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Thugs? How dare you call these upstanding providers that. You and I both know that the majority of these criminals are male, white, Christian, conservative, straight, Republicans that do not pay their fair share of taxes and are robbing the recipients of their rightful confiscation. Get it right before I pull out the race card on you.
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:29 pm to TaderSalad
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BRPD is having mass exoduses and no one wants to work in this shite hole so no new applicants.
I have no idea if what you’re saying is true or not or even if it matters, but how many officers does the BRPD have today and how much of a statistical correlation is there between number of officers and homicides?
I’ll hang up and listen.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:31 pm to BeepNode
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Broome acknowledged that as of the first week in December, Baton Rouge Police were still 56 officers short of their full 698 allotment, a number that has barely changed since August, when law enforcement officials first said their manpower was at unprecedented lows.
The article was updated after I originally read it.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:46 pm to member12
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But still higher than East Baton Rouge and with less population.
You got me. BR is so much of a better place to live then Nola. Durp
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:53 pm to jdeval1
All because nobody will invest in NBR.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 2:56 pm to jdeval1
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The article was updated after I originally read it.
Right but it doesn’t say how many officers they historically had. A “mass exodus” would imply significant drops in manpower.
I found an article from 4 years ago that said they were 30 shy of the 698 just after hiring 27 new officers.
So if I’m reading that correctly they have 20 fewer officers today than 4 years ago which is less than a 3% change.
Just trying to get actual facts straight. I’m not sure how to approach the claim that the number of officers was a major factor in the homicide rate. It could be true but there should be objective evidence to support it. Outside of NYC which is a unique place I’m not seeing the data to support that claim, at least not yet.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:10 pm to BeepNode
The Ferguson Effect isn't about the number of police on a police force as much as it is about the way they police.
There is an epidemiologist who has been working on the issue since Ferguson and his data (I think periodically covered by the Washington Post) seem to show increases in homicides in at risk communities overwhelmed by violent crime.
There is an epidemiologist who has been working on the issue since Ferguson and his data (I think periodically covered by the Washington Post) seem to show increases in homicides in at risk communities overwhelmed by violent crime.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:24 pm to BeepNode
I believe Kip let the numbers fall, and pay stagnate. Broome killed morale.
It is s dangerous situation.
We play thousands of dollars for things that aren't necessary and plan for more. Instead of cutting out the unnecessary things and using the savings to improve BRPD, they want to raise taxes even higher.
These people are out of control.
It is s dangerous situation.
We play thousands of dollars for things that aren't necessary and plan for more. Instead of cutting out the unnecessary things and using the savings to improve BRPD, they want to raise taxes even higher.
These people are out of control.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:27 pm to molsusports
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The Ferguson Effect isn't about the number of police on a police force as much as it is about the way they police.
So they don't need more officers?
- BRPD has more officers per capita than Dallas, Tampa, Orlando, Miami, and San Francisco.
- BRPD has 50% more officers than St. Pete, Fort Worth, Seattle, Austin, and Jacksonville.
- BRPD has DOUBLE the officers per capita than El Paso, Reno, Boise, Portland, and San Diego which incidentally all have low homicide rates.
- BRPD has 3x the officers per capita than Bakersfield and San Jose.
- The BRPD has almost 300 employees that are not officers. That's almost 1/3rd of your workforce dedicated to overhead? Maybe it can consolidate administrative and forensic duties with other agencies (city gov and EBRSO) to save money and then put that money into the police force?
I'm not opposed to hiring more officers, but I'm just stating the facts instead of feelings.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:49 pm to doubleb
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I believe Kip let the numbers fall, and pay stagnate. Broome killed morale.
A lot of agencies had to cut budgets or at least freeze in the past 8 years so that part wouldn’t suprise me.
Do you have the numbers?
Posted on 12/8/17 at 3:50 pm to BeepNode
That's an interesting statistic. I notice those areas also don't have a large culcha population too
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:18 pm to Paul Allen
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Explain the high murder rate in the 90’s with all white mayors?
Crack
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:19 pm to BeepNode
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BRPD has 50% more officers than St. Pete, Fort Worth, Seattle, Austin, and Jacksonville.
- BRPD has DOUBLE the officers per capita than El Paso, Reno, Boise, Portland, and San Diego which incidentally all have low homicide rates.
- BRPD has 3x the officers per capita than Bakersfield and San Jose.
What do the have 400% more of?
Statistics are racist.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:27 pm to jdeval1
I'd love to see the demographics involved in these homicides. I'd be shocked if more than one murder was done by a white guy.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:28 pm to TigersSEC2010
Uhhh....remember the white dude killing random black people?
In September SLPD released homicide stats for the year and every single homicide suspect in St. Louis was black
In September SLPD released homicide stats for the year and every single homicide suspect in St. Louis was black
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:30 pm to TigersSEC2010
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I'd be shocked if more than one murder was done by a white guy.
We've had a few serial killers this year so it's at least 4-5. It's usually a pretty low number though.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:30 pm to upgrayedd
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Uhhh....remember the white dude killing random black people?
That and one of the guys Ryan Sharpe killed was in EBRP.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:32 pm to upgrayedd
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Uhhh....remember the white dude killing random black people?
True. So we're up to two white guys out of almost 100 killings. I'd say the statistics point to white people not being the problem.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 4:32 pm to BeepNode
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I'm not opposed to hiring more officers, but I'm just stating the facts instead of feelings.
yea only the facts that help your argument
you should include some more
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