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re: Homeowner kills intruder, only to be shot and killed by the cops.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:51 am to ELVIS U
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:51 am to ELVIS U
quote:1. You don't even know what 1st degree murder entails, obviously
Cop should be charged with 1st degree murder
2. Can we wait for some facts to come out first?
The OP said grandpa did everything he was supposed to do, do we even know that to be true?
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Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:53 am to heypaul
The neighbor must post on TD
quote:
“He could have picked my house,” Askoul said.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:59 am to LNCHBOX
Who called the cops and when was that called placed?
It is best to not call the cops until after the fact to use them for the police report.
When seconds matter, cops are minutes away.
It is best to not call the cops until after the fact to use them for the police report.
When seconds matter, cops are minutes away.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:34 am to slackster
quote:
but we don't know enough right now to blame the homeowner.
But we know enough to blame the cops.
Fact of the matter is
Home owner shot and killed an intruder.
Shot fired drew attention of neighbors who called police.
Homeowner would have to have been mentally retarded to not think police were going to show up.
Homeowner continues to wield his firearm during police arrival and obviously after police make contact with him.
Homeowner (Holding a gun) gets shot by police responding to a disturbance call (in all likelihood shots fired call)
This ain't rocket science people. Tragic as it is, Dude would be alive today if he would have been a responsible firearm owner.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:34 am to slackster
quote:
Serious question though - if a homeowner is fired upon by the police, does he have a right to defend himself? If this guy fires back at the officer who just tried to kill him mistakenly, does he have any defense in a court of law
for the record.. I have no intention of testing this...
If I am in my home, in the dark.. having fired upon an officer that had not identified himself...
My defense would be exactly the same as what any "officer of the law" would be...
it was dark, chaotic and I was never warned or informed by the officer...
I would also make sure my defense attorney pulled previous law enforcement defense testimony that reflected similar circumstances when they were absolved of any wrong doing... and my argument/defense would simply by if it was good enough for the officers to not be punished in these circumstances then it should be good enough for me...
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:48 am to Snipe
quote:
Snipe
Dude...
Shut up
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:49 am to heypaul
That’s close to where some of my fam lives.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:58 am to Snipe
quote:
Dude would be alive today if he would have been a responsible firearm owner.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:14 am to jeffsdad
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We don't know the details, but I would imagine the granddad tragically approached the cops with a gun in hand. You just can't do that. I've called the cops before (when there was someone trying to break in my house) and they instructed me several times to be certain I still wasn't holding my gun when they got there. But, yeah, this is messed up.
Had this conversation with a couple of neighbors who are LEO (one state one local) Both said in this type of case make sure you put your gun down before they arrive and they can clearly see your hands when they approach. Having the gun in your hand when they are responding to a shooting call is not good. I'm sure the old guy in this case wasn't thinking clearly and the cop who fired at him wasn't either.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:37 am to heypaul
quote:
Dude...
Shut up
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:52 am to Snipe
You realize how ridiculous you sound?
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:51 pm to heypaul
quote:
You realize how ridiculous you sound?
Only to people like you that don't know what you're talking about. But I don't really care about your opinion because you have no common sense. Only an agenda.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:23 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
You can throw down you weapon and raise your hands. You can scream and identify yourself.
Furtive movements...you're dead. Cops have a license to kill nowadays. They just have to use the get out of jail free card by saying "I was in fear for my life."
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:25 pm to Snipe
quote:
This ain't rocket science people. Tragic as it is, Dude would be alive today if he would have been a responsible firearm owner.
He'd be alive today if the cops put forth any effort to figure out the situation.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:33 pm to Snipe
quote:
Idiot home owner.
If the old man pointed the weapon at the police then maybe...but just because he had the gun in his hand is not justification to kill him.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:37 pm to Snipe
quote:
Only to people like you that don't know what you're talking about. But I don't really care about your opinion because you have no common sense. Only an agenda.
Ok skippy, settle down.
You're obviously an immature little twit.
Posted on 8/5/18 at 1:01 pm to celltech1981
quote:
if the cop got killed kicking in somebodies door over some pot i'd say he had it coming to him
Not many in here would agree with you.
They love them some badges
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