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re: Home Standby Generators

Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:36 am to
Posted by footballdude
BR
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Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:48 am to
I'm 45 years old and was born and raised in South Louisiana. We had several hurricanes during the 80's. We had a few floods. All of which were big power outage events for multiple days (if not weeks). Hell, one day with no power feels like a few days!

Then we had Katrina, Rita, Gustav, 2016 floods in the new century. So it feels like this long stretch of no significant Hurricane is kind of a rare event (if based off my entire lifespan and the weather events we've had just in my lifespan). Not that I'm complaining, by any stretch. But to say that a weather event causing a major power outage of multiple days (weeks) is rare, is inaccurate. Save that message for the Chamber of Commerce brochure.
Posted by LSUStjames
Member since Dec 2005
3473 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 9:54 am to
I think i paid 8k total including installation for a Generac 22k NG. My place is 4500 sqft with 2 AC units. The gen powers it all. I explain it as something you don't really need until you do, then you really need it. The potential to have no power for days is something that would drive me to consider evacuation. With the gen, i don't even consider it now. Is something a luxury but one that I think it's very worth it. Some people in BR were without power from Fri night until Sun night this past weekend.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18358 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:07 am to
Most Generators over 22KW are going to be liquid cooled and therefore the price is going to be much more. Most 20-22KW generators will run 2500 sq ft homes or less. THe best advice I can give is to buy someone that will service 24/7. Doesn't do any good to have one if it doesn't run.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
15739 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:12 am to
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This and the better ones have a timer that will auto start once a week and run for 5-30 mins at a time
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164339 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:14 am to
All I need is a small generator to run a window unit. If you haven't lost power in 11 years since Gustav I can't justify the cost for something not needed the last 11 years.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10324 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:17 am to
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What do you guys think?


I'm not sure I would pay to put one in but the house I bought already had one and it sure is nice!

You could get a maintenance contract but servicing them yourself isn't very hard. I do my own.
Posted by lnomm34
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
12616 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:26 am to
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They say the cost is about $70-$100 per day to run;



I guess it beats the price of a week long hotel stay.


Yea, no fricking way it's $70 - 100/day to run a standby natural-gas generator, especially with natural gas prices right now.

Mine is a Briggs & Stratton 18kW, powered by a 993cc Briggs & Stratton Vanguard engine. At 50% load, the engine is rated to burn 187 cubic feet of natural gas per hour. Based on my last bill, Entergy is charging me $0.36452 per every 100 cubic feet of natural gas I use.

Of course, there are a ton of variables that would contribute to the burn rate, but let's just use those numbers as a basis:

187 cf /hr x 24 hr/day x $0.36452/100 cf = $16.36/day
Posted by FlagLake
"Da Ship"
Member since Feb 2006
2342 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:29 am to
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Has anyone discussed the cost of running the generator over say 1 week of no power. What are yall seeing as far as gasoline/natural gas prices?


Ours ran for 5 days after Gustave. When we got out gas bill we broke it down and it cost us around $25 a day to run. That was 2008 so I don’t remember what natural gas prices were but it was a hell of a lot cheaper than regular gas generators at the time considering it was over $3 a gallon back then.
Posted by robchand58
Denham Springs LA
Member since Nov 2012
630 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:41 am to
We moved into our forever home after being flooded out in 2016. Had a manual transfer switch put in during construction - switches between the mains and the generator plug. We don't want full house comfort during an extended outage, just want to keep the Refrig/Freezer underway, ceiling fans and maybe one TV with the internet modems. A $2000 gasoline powered Honda should do the trick for us.
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13436 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:42 am to
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My biggest worry is the AC going out and having to lug my heavy arse window unit out of the garage


How much does it take to run central A/C? I'm talking a 3 ton system.
Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9803 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 10:47 am to
Bought a 16k watt from Lowes for $4000, no interest for 2 years. Transfer switch is about $900, and I had someone install for about $900. We pre-wired our house for it, so I am not sure what the cost is for that. 16k watts runs everything in my house: 2 refrigerators, 1 deep freeze, 4 ton ac unit, washer and dryer, etc

It's probably not a "sound" investment, but I could afford it and it is peace of mind, especially when you have young children. I feel safe staying for most hurricanes at our house and I'd prefer to stick around with power rather than pack up the kids and evacuate.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107938 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 11:36 am to
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How much does it take to run central A/C? I'm talking a 3 ton system.





I have a 22k genny and a 4 ton AC...It'll run everything in the house.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:15 pm to
Size house?

Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 12:38 pm to
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Posted by LegendaryOutlaw
Member since Apr 2019
285 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 1:38 pm to
I was out 13 days for Gustav, wouldn’t pay 10k to change that, and I’d likely move move another one like that hit. That said, I live in an area with a much better grid now.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18878 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:09 pm to
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I'm 45 years old and was born and raised in South Louisiana.
I'm 71.
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We had several hurricanes during the 80's. We had a few floods.
Mine was underwater for a few days. We changed oil 4 times, new filter and it hasn't missed a beat since.
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But to say that a weather event causing a major power outage of multiple days (weeks) is rare, is inaccurate.
Bad statement. This all depends on where a person lives. Rural areas can still be without power long enough to be miserable as well as losing everything in frig. and freezer.

The cost is really up to the individual. Some may NEED and some might just want the convenience.

It is more convenience in a person's early years vs becoming need as one gets older.
Posted by captainahab
Highway Trio8
Member since Dec 2014
1607 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 2:21 pm to
"Running" the AC is not the problem, it is the start up of the central unit (not portable). I think the majority of the whole home generators have switching and load management intelligence. When the power goes out, the smart switch can do a load manage and control what units come on and when. For example, when AC unit one comes on line, it can be programmed to wait for it to be up and running before the other AC unit can be allowed to start up.

With load management, you can get by with a smaller (KW) generator. The KW calculator may say you need a 30KW (liquid cooled) to run everything but you may be able to get by with 22KW (air cooled) if you stay away from using an electric dryer, an electric over, at the same time you are running both AC central units.
Posted by vjp819
South Sec. 414 / Alex Box Sec. 210
Member since Nov 2003
10882 posts
Posted on 7/15/19 at 3:40 pm to
Depends how reliable your power provider has been. I have Demco, and in the past 25 years, including hurricanes, I have lost power 4-5 times for a total of 8 days. Three days was the longest without power. When I was restoring my home after the 2016 flood I had one company come out and give me an estimate for a 22kw and install. With the little time I am without power I could not justify the investment of $10-11K on something that I had so little use for, plus a service agreement which if you own one of these things, you likely need to have. I also know that when folks are freshly removed from a storm, the generator companies ramp up their ads during a time when as they say the iron is still hot. I have 2 95kw generators, and a couple of small AC units I keep stored in my shop for occasions when I need them. They have done a good job for me. In most cases, I loan one of the generators to family members when they lost power. In saying all that, if your utility compony isn't that reliable, and you constantly lose power, then you probably need to invest in a standby generator. Having a standby generator may help you sell your home faster, but I seriously doubt it would raise the value any by having one.
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