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re: Home school vs Public/Private school
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:18 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:18 am to BluegrassBelle
Public and private schools could learn a lot if they would take homeschooling and the reasons parents decide to do so seriously.
While I was in the military, my wife homeschooled our four boys. She did this in several states and was usually connected to some sort of homeschool association. While they were being homeschooled, they all participated in little league baseball, music lessons and band, and Boy Scouts. In each of these, they interacted with kids from public and private schools as well as other homeschoolers. Homeschooled through 8th grade, they all have transitioned to private high school and college quite well.
Mainstream schools aren't as flexible as homeschools, and for this reason, cannot address the needs of each child as closely. For example, once our family had the opportunity to take an extended vacation in Belgium, France and Spain, but it would fall in the Spring around Easter. Going in the summer would have been too expensive. Being homeschoolers, we were able to go without any problem of taking our kids out of school for three weeks. This was a great opportunity for them to experience the world we couldn't pass up, and we didn't have to deal with the bureaucratic nonsense schools would put in our way.
Especially in a time where families are breaking down, schools need to create an environment where students can get all of the necessary work done during the day. The current wall of academics process doesn't allow that to happen. Kids need time during the day to digest the material, but they are never given it.
Some of the charters in New Orleans are addressing some of these concerns. I hope the promise we already see continues.
GEAUX TIGERS
While I was in the military, my wife homeschooled our four boys. She did this in several states and was usually connected to some sort of homeschool association. While they were being homeschooled, they all participated in little league baseball, music lessons and band, and Boy Scouts. In each of these, they interacted with kids from public and private schools as well as other homeschoolers. Homeschooled through 8th grade, they all have transitioned to private high school and college quite well.
Mainstream schools aren't as flexible as homeschools, and for this reason, cannot address the needs of each child as closely. For example, once our family had the opportunity to take an extended vacation in Belgium, France and Spain, but it would fall in the Spring around Easter. Going in the summer would have been too expensive. Being homeschoolers, we were able to go without any problem of taking our kids out of school for three weeks. This was a great opportunity for them to experience the world we couldn't pass up, and we didn't have to deal with the bureaucratic nonsense schools would put in our way.
Especially in a time where families are breaking down, schools need to create an environment where students can get all of the necessary work done during the day. The current wall of academics process doesn't allow that to happen. Kids need time during the day to digest the material, but they are never given it.
Some of the charters in New Orleans are addressing some of these concerns. I hope the promise we already see continues.
GEAUX TIGERS
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:18 am to BigB0882
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I don't see how any parent could homeschool their child through high school. I am a teacher and I wouldn't dare try to take over a biology class or chemistry. And what about a foreign language? That is required for TOPs unless home schoolers play by different rules. I could never teach a foreign language. This could only work for extremely bright students who are very self motivated. That's a small percentage of students. And all of that comes to mind before I've mentioned the social aspect.
There are online courses now for homeschooling.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 9:19 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:19 am to BigB0882
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I don't see how any parent could homeschool their child through high school. I am a teacher and I wouldn't dare try to take over a biology class or chemistry. And what about a foreign language? That is required for TOPs unless home schoolers play by different rules.
Most homeschoolers purchase curriculums, especially for upper level schooling. There are plenty to choose from.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:19 am to torrey225
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I had one home-schooled friend who was a pretty popular traveling Cajun musician.
These are often exceptions. Being a traveling musicians means maturing quickly and having a lot of social interactions. Lucky for her she was also smart but a lot of musically talented people are.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:26 am to tduecen
I like public school because you interact with a wide variety of people. I went to school with children of millionaires and people who were dirt poor. I also went to school with people who later became very successful and people who dropped out in 9th grade
This was possible because I lived in an area where there were no private schools. If there were private schools then the public school would have been less diverse.
This was possible because I lived in an area where there were no private schools. If there were private schools then the public school would have been less diverse.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 9:40 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:27 am to tduecen
quote:Yeah the article clearly states that the data are from ONE medium sized university in the Midwest. That's not enough to make any global claims about the differences.
Those numbers are warped, they only account for some home schooled students vs all public school students. They have an article on Google that goes into more details.
Here are the presentation slides from the researcher. LINK
It's a private, Catholic University of about 10,000 students.
The total sample of homeschoolers is about 175.
This is far too specific of a sample to generalize.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 9:34 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:31 am to buckeye_vol
Home schools have the best proms. If you don't have a date don't worry nobody else will either.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:34 am to Supermoto Tiger
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I laugh at home school parents.
What a horrible disservice to their kid. Can you say "helicopter parent"
Some people just amaze me on their ignorance on this subject. Home schooling is more than just a mom trying to wing it. There are home school curriculums, home school groups, tons of programs that cover the social interaction, I can go on and on.
Many people home school bc it's a more efficient way of educating children.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 9:38 am
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:37 am to Thorny
This guy gets it.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:14 am to tduecen
Lol at all the people who think most of the home school educated people they have met are weird and socially awkward. They actually have no idea about most of the home schooled adults they have met. This is because most of us are perfectly normal. It's not like we tell everyone we meet we were home schooled. That would be weird.
I did get to do a lot of cool stuff by being home schooled. I have no ideal why someone would want to go sit in classes all day long when you can learn the same stuff in less than an hour at home.
I did get to do a lot of cool stuff by being home schooled. I have no ideal why someone would want to go sit in classes all day long when you can learn the same stuff in less than an hour at home.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:15 am to tduecen
I suggest you home school. Then you will end up paying my wife to teach them and I can put in a pool.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:24 am to SECROCKS!
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I have no ideal why someone would want to go sit in classes all day long
it's the insanity in the hallway and after school that you never experience, and are probably a lot more sane for it...
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:27 am to tduecen
My Aunt and Uncle home schooled their two children because she had a degree in education (which she never used until now) and they are also crazy religious nuts who see school as the gateway to hell.
They have two extremely intelligent kids. One is 16 and the other 13. They are both socially weird due to not having normal interaction and from what I've heard my aunt pretty much doesn't teach them anything. The older one should be going into his senior year and still hasn't learned geometry. He told me he knows he isn't college material, which is such a shame because he is very smart. He just got fricked over by his parents.
It's a shame, and in this case (not all cases of home school) it should be considered child abuse.
They have two extremely intelligent kids. One is 16 and the other 13. They are both socially weird due to not having normal interaction and from what I've heard my aunt pretty much doesn't teach them anything. The older one should be going into his senior year and still hasn't learned geometry. He told me he knows he isn't college material, which is such a shame because he is very smart. He just got fricked over by his parents.
It's a shame, and in this case (not all cases of home school) it should be considered child abuse.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:31 am to Grateful Dead
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I've went to a Private Catholic High School my whole life, nothing will drive you away from religion like their persistent asses but good education makes up for that I guess.
I'll definitely agree with this.
I went to Jesuit from 8th to 12th, and each year we had a different religion teacher. Some years a priest, another a brother, but most of the time a regular teacher.
Each year I had to watch the poor Catholic kids (I was protestant but never really bought into the whole organized religion thing) struggle with their faith as they learned everything in grammar school was either made-up stories, or the teacher that year had a completely different outlook and translation of the Catholic religion.
I know quite a few who became atheist after 5 years of religion class.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 10:44 am to tduecen
Ive met 4 homewchool students. Two graduated college at 17. One was in my physical chemistry class, his brother was a year behind. He scored highest in our class and yes he was a little akward but in all fairness he was behind us in a few years. The third one was a good friend of mine and scored the highest of us. He worked while in college and was not akward in any sense. The last was a little girl who definitely is ahead of her peers educationally and she two isn't akward. The biggest difference between the first two was their mom was a helicopter parent while the other two the family made a point to socialize them in various activities such as sports and clubs. The deal with homeschooling is really dependent on how the family does it.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:14 am to Kino74
The outcomes for homeschool students are not that much different than public schools students. Social awkwardness has nothing to do with schools. Home school kids are not like John Travolta as the kid in a bubble.
Posted on 3/2/16 at 5:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
TBird Spur, I just might know your parents. Does the L&V F family live near A&M?
If they are who I'm thinking of they some of the most outstanding people I've ever met...as is their whole family.
If they are who I'm thinking of they some of the most outstanding people I've ever met...as is their whole family.
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