- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: History Thread, Not WW2 Related: What is Britian's single greatest victory?
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Agincourt would be higher had England won the 100 years war no doubt. But it is still a very prestigious victory for England.
0
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:15 pm to theGarnetWay
Agincourt and Crecy were impressive
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:12 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
The Wall didn't separate Britannia from Rome. It marked the northern border of the Roman Provence of Britannia from the Barbarian Celtic tribes north of there in what is modern day Scotland.
Dude I know I was just a trying to be funny.
Honestly the Romans taking them over is probably the best thing that ever happened to them in the long run
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:31 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
Had Hitler allowed them to attack, it would have been a slaughter.
Precisely. Saving those troops was invaluable to the war.
quote:
2. Hitler thinking that by showing mercy to the BEF and ordering his forces to halt, the British would be more apt to come to the table to discuss peace terms.
The beginning of a long list of tactical and strategic errors by the leader.
quote:
1. Goering being an idiot can claiming his Luftwaffe could destroy the remnants of the BEF by itself.
Had he the Air Force we possessed in 1945, this would have been possible. But in 1940, only an idiot (clearly) could have believed this. Hell Germany's lack of a real strategic bomber doomed them in the battle of Brittan before it ever started.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:32 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Probably doesn't compare but the Faukland Islands campaign was a pretty daring undertaking. Thousands of miles from home with no forward bases and minimal troops.
They beat up on underarmed Argentineans.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:48 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
Exactly. Two things made that possible..
1. Goering being an idiot can claiming his Luftwaffe could destroy the remnants of the BEF by itself.
and
2. Hitler thinking that by showing mercy to the BEF and ordering his forces to halt, the British would be more apt to come to the table to discuss peace terms.
Both proved to be woefully incorrect. The reality of the situation though is the Germans had three full armies (6th, 18th, and 4th) along with Panzergruppe Hoth (basically a Panzer Corps) surrounding the perimeter of Dunkirk. The British had the shattered remnants of 3 corps and the disorganized and defeated remnants of the French 1st Army. Had Hitler allowed them to attack, it would have been a slaughter.
Hitler was not the only person in the German high command who wanted to stop the panzers. Von Rundstedt, Guderian's superior, also advocated stopping the panzers. And the reason was that despite the speed of the victory the panzer formations had taken the brunt of the German casualties, especially during the crossing of the Meuse. Von Rundstedt was therefore concerned that his panzer armies would not be ready to complete the conquest of France after the elimination of the Dunkirk pocket. Plus there were some rational geographic reasons for concerns about using the panzers, notably the presence of several canals that would have to be crossed in the face of significant enemy fire. This would have further eroded the combat power of the panzer divisions.
That's not to say that it was still the wrong decision. It probably was. But it wasn't solely based on the notion that Hitler hoped the English would surrender if shown mercy. There isn't a whole lot of documentary evidence for that argument.
Back on topic, it's the defeat of the Spanish Armada.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:01 pm to pistolsfiring11
You bring up a good point and I think one of the main motivators for Rundstedt was the memory of the gap that opened in the German lines as they approached Paris in 1914 that allowed the "Miracle on the Marne". I believe he was afraid of a similar repeat.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:02 pm to UL-SabanRival
quote:
Trafalgar.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:ooh good one. Great speech too!
Battle of Agincourt
I'm thinking Armada, Trafalgar, Agincourt are interchangeable.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:11 pm to bayoubengals88
Blenheim was an allied victory....
I'd personally have to go with Agincourt
I'd personally have to go with Agincourt
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:33 pm to biglego
quote:
Agincourt and Crecy were impressive
This. These two (along with Poiters) and the rest of the hundred years war were important not just as victories but for a couple of other reasons:
This war pretty much made England and France into the countries they are as opposed to feuding provinces (I think prior to this war the English kings valued their holdings on the continent as much if not more than their English ones).
Also, if I'm not mistaken the development of the English long-bowmen marked a movement towards more widespread use of commoners in combat. And it marked somewhat of a movement towards integrated war planning in that the very long term training of the bowmen, the manufacture of the bows, the arrows, the fletching and the specialized armor piercing arrowheads took some coordination.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:01 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
Battle of Trafalgar
This is where I'm at - Nelson was such a bada$$ - he won the battle, even though he was dead.
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:08 pm to theGarnetWay
Armada..drake GOAT
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:57 pm to theGarnetWay
quote:
Defeat of the Spanish Armada
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:35 am to Trout Bandit
quote:
Personally I think it's producing an OT 9 like Elizabeth Hurley
That's a Universal 12 on a scale of 1 to 10.
LC
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:54 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
Probably doesn't compare but the Faukland Islands campaign was a pretty daring undertaking. Thousands of miles from home with no forward bases and minimal troops.
Bad career move for the Argentines. They didn't thing Maggie Thatcher would fight back.
Page 2 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News