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Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:22 am to UFFan
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Why does sub-Saharan Africa seem to have such little history of note?
I read several yrs ago that one major difference here was the problem that native horses and herd animals were not domesticatable. The zebra is not usable for domestic purpose.
Similar situation here in North and South America until the Euros came. However the euros went to Africa too and the result was not the same
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:29 am to Darth_Vader
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Hard to have much history when your civilization is still mostly hunter gatherer tribes with at most Bronze Age, and oftentimes Stone Age technology.
Reverend Manning has some interesting thoughts on this.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:38 am to UFFan
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Why does sub-Saharan Africa seem to have such little history of note?
What are your thoughts?
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:43 am to tigahbruh
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History is literally the written record of events.
No, it isn't but it is a record of the past, it can be oral as well as written. Within the purview of history as an academic field, oral histories are considered a significant source of information. Once they are cataloged, they essentially become written history but are notated as a written account of oral histories to distinguish them from contemporaneous written histories. Contemporaneous written histories are considered more reliable than oral histories but even then historians try to understand who the writers were to attempt to account for biases.
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It can incorporate archeology, linguistics, geology, etc, but it isnt history until that happens. Literally. Factually. Those are different fields.
All of those things are used in the historical fields as methods of verification or refutation of both oral and written histories. They can be tools of the historian. We default to the written word now to catalog our history but not all cultures have had written language so they used oral traditions to pass their history down.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 8:48 am to udtiger
Yeah, the native indians were about as peacefull as Karmut, Ukraine is right now.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:12 am to pankReb
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While it is most usually written or recorded on something tangible....that isn't the limitation of history. History can be spoken from generation to generation....which is usually the case for tribal people. Hell, the language itself is history. While they don't have stacks of text books documenting every thing that's ever happened, it doesn't mean they have no history....which is what was suggested earlier.
Tradition, Heritage, linguistics. Not History. By fact. As in Definition of. You are literally incorrect.
If by "oral history," you mean recorded interviews, yes, that counts. Traditions that just play Chinese whispers over generations is definitely not history.
History text books are usually also not history, but that is a whole different issue...
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 9:17 am
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Kinda' like Louisiana, huh?
If you can ever get rid of the corruption in Africa, you might see a few nations come into the modern age.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:18 am to Darth_Vader
If it’s a bunch of Hunter gatherer civilizations, why did it take machine guns and modern technology for Europeans to military fight them? Were these enormous slave trading networks established with a bunch of cave men. You need to stick to to fan boyism for your low kindergarten intelligence level plot Disney series instead of trying to interpret history.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:20 am to CornbreadFed
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You need to stick to to fan boyism for your low kindergarten intelligence level plot Disney series instead of trying to interpret history.
Correct because the truth is much harsher for the residents of sub saharan africa.
All the smart ones escaped decades ago.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:21 am to rhar61
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Why would they not record their use of the wheel?
If you don’t need the wheel then why Invent it?
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:21 am to HubbaBubba
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Kinda' like Louisiana, huh?
Bingo.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:22 am to wallowinit
quote:If a tree falls in the woods and no nurse is around to hear it… does it have a tic tok?
History
Just not recorded.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:22 am to DamnGood86
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Plenty of herstory.
Just not recorded.
Herstory is the record of events. If there is no record, that would be preherstory or preherstoric.
I fixed it for you misogynists.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Correct because the truth is much harsher for the residents of sub saharan africa. All the smart ones escaped decades ago.
Not like Europe hasn’t been a war scape/oppressive shvt hole since the 80s. Yep, nobody tried to escape that continent ever in history.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:23 am to CornbreadFed
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Not like Europe hasn’t been a war scape/oppressive shvt hole since the 80s.
Yet wildly successful for its current residents.
Strange.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:25 am to Dawgfanman
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What are your thoughts?
The brightest ones escaped. Geography isn't kind to sub saharan Africa.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yet wildly successful for its current residents. Strange.
Correction, after two world wars and a peak economic superpower bailing it out financially and militarily, it’s a decent place to live.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Liberia's history is quite interesting
Makes you wonder why American black folks didnt reverse migrate. There was once a negro league baseball team called the Monrovians.
The former slaves and the natives did not get along very well, and at one point, the natives very nearly wiped them out. I suspect that had the natives won that day, they would have sold the servivers back into slavery.
Various states set up colonies which eventually combined into what's now Liberia.
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:29 am to DMAN1968
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The actual evolutionary birthplace of humans and yet so far removed from modernity.
The original white flight
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