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re: Higher administrative pay linked to lower student test scores
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:17 am to Cell of Awareness
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:17 am to Cell of Awareness
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It could also be that nobody wants to be principal at a failing school full of terrible kids so you have to offer more pay to get anyone to put up with that crap
Scores went down AFTER administrative salaries went up.
Neighborhood and thus kids/families at the school could be getting worse. I'm not saying throwing money at new administrators is the answer, but it can't be deduced this is the cause either.
I don't why this gets downvoted
Not like I want to overpay educational system bloat either. Just have to look at the situation more broadly than saying paying more causes bad test scores.
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Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:18 am to MoarKilometers
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Also, 556k for elementary homeroom teacher
That can't be real, it just can't be
Something else going on there.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 10:42 am to Cell of Awareness
Larger, more populated public school districts, especially in large cities are more likely to have lower test scores. Larger, more populated school districts pay their administrators more money because of the size. Not saying there is not corruption and bloated salaries. But this is just another example of correlation does not equal causation.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:02 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Larger, more populated public school districts, especially in large cities are more likely to have lower test scores.
hmmm, let’s explore this a little more. why?
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:16 am to Huey Lewis
As an administrator at a school that is not failing kids...1000 percent this. I am content to make far less than my peers in urban areas not to have to del with the BS they do.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:19 am to CatfishJohn
I am close enough to Wharton that I can guarantee you no one there is making 800+ thousand.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:20 am to TheosDeddy
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Exactly, bc less money for the classroom or better teachers Typical corruption
When I left K12 we had about 30-40 in administration for about 10k students.
That same admin with about 13k now has well over 100.
Every single campus rates lower than they did 10 years ago and what use to be the most prestigious HS in the county made a C on recent ratings.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:21 am to Cell of Awareness
Posted on 10/2/25 at 11:22 am to LSUTANGERINE
That’s what I was going to say. Larger, urban school districts can afford to pay more. Also, a lot of the time their students do not perform well on tests. You look at smaller, rural districts, they can’t afford to pay more but I would think a lot their students do well on tests.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:46 pm to Jimbeaux
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Wokism is action. (They call it praxis) The know-nothing radicals think they are enlightened with special social justice language and ideas. They are typically quite narcissistic or even anti-social.
Don’t go full retard. You have no idea what you are talking about.
I was a teacher in a very politically conservative county in the conservative state of Florida. We had a very generous school budget and our administration was completely bloated by useless $$$$. Our school was very inefficient. This isn’t a woke thing, it’s not an indoctrination scam, it’s a bureaucratic mess than is bigger than one political party .
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:47 pm to Old Man and a Porch
Schools are day prisons for kids, job creators for mediocre adults.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:48 pm to Cell of Awareness
Crazy, it’s just like the government. Who knew?
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:52 pm to Cell of Awareness
I taught school in three different states at different points in my life. I would jump in and out of academia depending on ambitions at that moment.
I would completely support the end to publicly funded education. As a system it is completely broken. At the core it’s a bad design, and educating the youth is far from the primary purpose of schools.
I would completely support the end to publicly funded education. As a system it is completely broken. At the core it’s a bad design, and educating the youth is far from the primary purpose of schools.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:52 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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Larger, more populated public school districts, especially in large cities are more likely to have lower test scores.
I wonder why....
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:57 pm to Huey Lewis
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It could also be that nobody wants to be principal at a failing school full of terrible kids so you have to offer more pay to get anyone to put up with that crap
Directors of Operations, in my experience, have the toughest jobs in schools. Dealing with so much red tape of dealing with government funds.
The insane way of securing the funds that keep the school operating and open, the school food programs red tape, the drama of keeping reliable transportation available for students which sounds impossible in today’s world, etc. I would be stressed to death.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 12:59 pm to Cell of Awareness
We didn't need a study to tell anyone this. We spend more money on education per child than any nation in the history of flat Earth. Yet, what we spend on a per child basis and the money spent on actual teachers in the classroom is just a tiny fraction of our Department of Education's budget.
Despite the above, our children are no better off. In fact, they're objectively worse off.
No need for a study. You just need to look at the budget and then look at test scores across the nation.
ETA: KILL THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. Kill it permanently by way of legislation. Do not give it a glimmer of a chance to be revived.
Despite the above, our children are no better off. In fact, they're objectively worse off.
No need for a study. You just need to look at the budget and then look at test scores across the nation.
ETA: KILL THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. Kill it permanently by way of legislation. Do not give it a glimmer of a chance to be revived.
This post was edited on 10/2/25 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 10/2/25 at 1:00 pm to Motownsix
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and educating the youth is far from the primary purpose of schools.
I taught in an alternative school. The district didnt care about learning, just butts in seats.
Kids had to sign "contracts" with desired behaviors, and the school never backed it up. Kids learned they could show up, frick off and still move through the system.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 1:05 pm to Cell of Awareness
St. Bernard Parish has one high school and three middle schools, and we have a high school athletic director and a district athletic director… WTF? I presume the middle schools each have one too.
And none of these people are the high school head football, basketball, or baseball coach
And none of these people are the high school head football, basketball, or baseball coach
Posted on 10/2/25 at 2:21 pm to Motownsix
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Don’t go full retard. You have no idea what you are talking about.
I was a teacher in a very politically conservative county in the conservative state of Florida. We had a very generous school budget and our administration was completely bloated by useless $$$$. Our school was very inefficient. This isn’t a woke thing, it’s not an indoctrination scam, it’s a bureaucratic mess than is bigger than one political party .
You seem a little sensitive. Did I touch a sore spot?
Here’s a study on universities and DEI spending:
Billions for DEI in Higher Ed: The Cost of Indoctrination
How DEI Mandates in Higher Ed Cost
At the same time that these administrative positions were added, with high salaries, and expensive programs, the policies pushed ideas like getting rid of entrance testing, allowances for low grades and grade inflation, social promotion, restorative justice in behavioral policies (black kids get more breaks), Emotional Social Learning (ESL) which took children off important learning topics and focused time on ideological programming.
Posted on 10/2/25 at 2:25 pm to Jimbeaux
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Jimbeaux
You seem retarded, fyi
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