Help me understand. defunding vs Reform

Refunding or defunding?

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Back to your point, if you're protesting cops being bad at their job you're not going to be asking for them to get more money

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ETA: DEFUNDING autocorrecting to REFUNDING

This makes sense. After every single one was wrong I was wondering

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I know, I've finally had a legitimate question to all this craziness that I can maybe get behind if I could hear any legitimate arguments for and my phone makes me look like an idiot.

Lets defund the police, yet we want them to have more "diversity training" , etc.

Sounds plausible.

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I don't want to hear about complete abolition of police. I think we can all agree that this is not the option.

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Well this is what the Left wants

It’s not about reform it’s about retribution which will only precipitate more of it.

I fully agree. Completely defund the police and other services and allow private citizens the option to either fend for themselves or pay for a private security force.

To answer your question, you can't really have both.

People are protesting racist cops when racist cops aren't even the real problem. Sure, it would be a much easier fix if it was just a racism problem, but it isn't.

None of these people are asking why police are having these issues. To them, they already know the answer. That is shortsighted and closed minded. The publicly elected Mayors and City Councils set policy and manage city services. These are the people who raise your taxes and oversee how that money is spent.

Those elected officials have, for many decades, placed more value and importance on many other things than law enforcement. Due to cutting funds, poor oversight, poor choices in leadership positions, and refusing to back their departments, they have reduced their candidate pool to the lowest common denominator. This is particularly true in larger cities which tend to have higher violent crime rates.

You, we, the elected officials can not cut funds to an already underfunded city agency and expect a better result. Until these inner city departments can offer a wage worthy of the job and capable of living in areas where the cost of living is higher, we will continue to have poorly trained, poorly managed, and poorly performing police departments.

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You, we, the elected officials can not cut funds to an already underfunded city agency and expect a better result

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This right here is the basis for my confusion on the whole defunding position. We've been "defunding" lots of institutions over the past 30 years. How can we make it better without spending a lot of money to change it?