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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:22 pm to
What is the peak forecasted winds then? These are the things I’m gonna change at the NHC
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14281 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:27 pm to
That 72-hour forecast position is ~20 miles east of Tallahassee along US27 near Capps, FL which is ~23 miles from Apalachee Bay.

Landfall can thus be estimated at ~67-68 hours from now since the positions are starting from 00Z.

If that is the eventual track, Tallahassee could get the western eyewall depending on the width of the eye.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:28 pm to
GFS intensity worth watching this run. Not for the number but for the trend relative to 18z and why...
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 10:30 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:31 pm to
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wouldn't be surprised to see another step back at 00z. The hurricane models show convection building over the NHC 8 pm advisory LLC by 00z. However, convection is currently displaced to the east of the advisory LLC.


It looks like it’s building convection over the center now. A few hours behind schedule.
Posted by LPLGTiger
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:31 pm to
Once the models play out can you, or someone post it? Many people post “this model run is intense” then nothing else. Kind of leave us in the dark over here.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 10:32 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:37 pm to
quote:

Once the models play out can you, or someone post it? Many people post “this model run is intense” then nothing else. Kind of leave us in the dark over here.


I’ll try if I’m up. I used to post them all the time but for whatever reason the direct links to Tropical Tidbits don’t load over here anymore.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:38 pm to
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Lots of transplants freaking out because they’ve never been through a storm.


Didn’t they just have Sally a few years ago and Ivan in 2004, Dennis in 2005?

My have some people have forgotten or not lived through these systems. But then again, you said transplants, so some of these Yankees may not have even gotten acquainted to our hot and muggy summers.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 10:59 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:40 pm to
I'm probably going to stay up for the GFS, and maybe take a peak at the cane models b4 bed.

I want to see size and yucatan interactions. I think those are the most interesting intensity questions left.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:59 pm to
GFS a little stronger and farther east on this one. Not to landfall yet but eh, pretty damn big too. Did miss the Yucatan.

Once again, winds are eastern loaded about mid-gulf. This sort of solution would put a lot of surge into Tampa.

This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:12 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75115 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:03 pm to
That little westward shift it does around Cuba has seemed a little suspect to me, but it has held onto the idea for a while now.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:12 pm to
Nothing like late night, FL threat and I have time to edit my thoughts.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:21 pm to
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GFS a little stronger and farther east on this one. Not to landfall yet but eh, pretty damn big too. Did miss the Yucatan.


It’s 1mb weaker than the 18z at landfall. You may have made this post earlier in the run though.
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3711 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

Once the models play out can you, or someone post it? Many people post “this model run is intense” then nothing else. Kind of leave us in the dark over here.


You can always do it yourself and not be left in the dark
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
14254 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:27 pm to
The weather guys aren’t going to hump you, bro. At least I don’t think they will.
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3711 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:29 pm to
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The weather guys aren’t going to hump you, bro. At least I don’t think they will.


You just can’t help being a pussy constantly can you
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79924 posts
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:47 pm to
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The weather guys aren’t going to hump you, bro. At least I don’t think they will
You're arguing with a bitter angry dick head. He's foul and contributes absolutely nothing, much like in his real life. He needs therapy.
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Camijoe
Member since May 2024
464 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:25 am to
They got a Buckee's they'll be fine
Posted by kc8876
Member since May 2012
3711 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:30 am to
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You're arguing with a bitter angry dick head. He's foul and contributes absolutely nothing, much like in his real life. He needs therapy.


Over/under how many stupid questions you ask in this thread?

Let’s set it at 50 and I’ll take the over
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 12:31 am
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
14281 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:54 am to
Tropical models with a shift eastward and are also much stronger this run. Close enough to have some impact on Tampa - especially the coastal suburbs.

GFS - 967 MB
HWRF - 119 kts = 135 mph and 923 MB
HMON - 110 kts = 125 mph and 929 MB
HAFS-A - 117 kts = 135 mph and 936 MB
HAFS-B - 128 kts = 145 mph and 923 MB
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6805 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 12:59 am to
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Katrina crossed it perpendicularly. This one, like Michael, will be running parallel with it almost all the way to landfall. It is part of the reason for the high ceiling.

Recall it well as I was involved in a project at the time measuring the Loop Current.

When the NHC abruptly shifted the track towards Nola, called my family from our home in Houston and had them head our way asap. They left Saturday morning, Katrina hit Monday.

Old graphic hard to read, Katrina's track over the LC was fairly lengthy.

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First graphic below on Aug 25th and second on Sept 1st show Katrina's ocean water churn and cooling of sea surface temps, before and after.




As you say, this one is likely (unfortunately) to mimic a similar scenario.
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