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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:13 pm to real turf fan
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:13 pm to real turf fan
How and where do you even start with those roads???
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Posted on 10/14/24 at 4:05 pm to tiger91
With that topography, you start the same place as the pioneers, by establishing a wagon trail, one wagon wide with pull overers at the inside of the bends.
When you drive along the base of the Blue Ride Mountains in Virginia, you can see (in winter) the early roads often on the opposite side of creeks.
A wagon road was made for slow moving pulling by oxen , maybe even by mules. You have to start somewhere and while the stuffed shirts are sitting in comfortable chairs miles away, you make a path that will get you in and out.
Watch how the railroads rebuild. They've done it before and will do it again.
It may take leadership that tells vocal minorities to sit down and shut up. So be it.
When you drive along the base of the Blue Ride Mountains in Virginia, you can see (in winter) the early roads often on the opposite side of creeks.
A wagon road was made for slow moving pulling by oxen , maybe even by mules. You have to start somewhere and while the stuffed shirts are sitting in comfortable chairs miles away, you make a path that will get you in and out.
Watch how the railroads rebuild. They've done it before and will do it again.
It may take leadership that tells vocal minorities to sit down and shut up. So be it.
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:04 pm to tiger91
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How and where do you even start with those roads???
The same way you eat an elephant.
Power outage in Buncombe County is down to 3% now, Yancey and Mitchell still at ~30%.
Another article about the water restoration efforts with a list of things to do before and after water reaches one's house/business.
ETA forgot the link Asheville Watch Dog
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 10/14/24 at 6:10 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 10/14/24 at 7:04 pm to LegendInMyMind
LINK
A local rich family visited the three hardest hit counties in east Tennessee and listened to what each needed. Their donations go straight to the counties for what they need most.
Interesting approach.
A local rich family visited the three hardest hit counties in east Tennessee and listened to what each needed. Their donations go straight to the counties for what they need most.
Interesting approach.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:04 am to real turf fan
This can't be true, can it?
I hate that I can't tell anymore. Is this lady legit?
I hate that I can't tell anymore. Is this lady legit?
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:59 am to tigeroarz1
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West Jefferson’s FB page says they are open for tourism.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 12:01 pm to SquatchDawg
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Have you heard anything about Ashe County (Jefferson/W.Jefferson)? That's our vacation spot. Considering that no river runs through it or borders it(The New River borders the eastern edge of the county w/Allegheny) I believe it got off fairly light considering. We Love that town
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I used to do some work in that area. Beautiful spot but not the easiest place to get to.
Yeah it's definitely secluded. We come from I-81 and Fancy Gap and drive SSW.
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Fun fact…the New River is considered one of the oldest rivers in the world
Yep. Top-5 oldest IIRC.
Also, Ashe County is the Xmas tree Capital of the World.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 12:07 pm to GetCocky11
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In my uninformed opinion, I wouldn’t be surprised if the parkway in NC remains closed until next spring…at least between Asheville and the VA state line.
I can see the portion from the VA line through Jefferson/W.Jefferson and down to Wilkesboro re-opening but any further south to Asheville is gonna remain closed.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 12:14 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
Was in northern part of South Carolina past weekend, Anderson and Greenville areas. Lot of downed trees cut up and brush piled next to roads,
Surprising part was the number of downed trees with completely pulled up roots. Never seen that before, whole trees ripped out of the ground.
Daughter seemed to think they had 7"+ of rain and 70 mph winds that rolled through.
Suppose that much rain softened the ground and made the trees easy to uproot.
Surprising part was the number of downed trees with completely pulled up roots. Never seen that before, whole trees ripped out of the ground.
Daughter seemed to think they had 7"+ of rain and 70 mph winds that rolled through.
Suppose that much rain softened the ground and made the trees easy to uproot.
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 10/15/24 at 2:13 pm to AlumneyeJ93
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Was in northern part of South Carolina past weekend, Anderson and Greenville areas. Lot of downed trees cut up and brush piled next to roads,
Surprising part was the number of downed trees with completely pulled up roots. Never seen that before, whole trees ripped out of the ground.
Daughter seemed to think they had 7"+ of rain and 70 mph winds that rolled through.
Suppose that much rain softened the ground and made the trees easy to uproot.
It always amazes me that a pine tree than is 80 feet tall and 30 inches in diameter 4 feet from the ground has a root system not much bigger than a 3 foot tall azalea. The root ball from some damned big pine trees is not big and was not very deep.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 2:32 pm to Obtuse1
From my sister, after her energy was restored:
The out-of-state energy company that helped us told our neighbor that although our area was one of the most severely damaged in terms of infrastructure, they went ahead with repairs on our road because our neighbors had done so much clearing that it made their job easier.
The out-of-state energy company that helped us told our neighbor that although our area was one of the most severely damaged in terms of infrastructure, they went ahead with repairs on our road because our neighbors had done so much clearing that it made their job easier.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 3:01 pm to AwgustaDawg
About the tree root sizes.
Our top soils aren't very deep and the trees don't seem to want to work their way into the clay -only layer. When we see uprooted trees, specifically single trees standing majestic in the middle of a yard, there's nothing to keep the tree anchored to the ground.
In our woods we don't see single trees totally fallen over, we may see them leaning and that leaning means that probably 60% of their roots are still functioning.
Our top soils aren't very deep and the trees don't seem to want to work their way into the clay -only layer. When we see uprooted trees, specifically single trees standing majestic in the middle of a yard, there's nothing to keep the tree anchored to the ground.
In our woods we don't see single trees totally fallen over, we may see them leaning and that leaning means that probably 60% of their roots are still functioning.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:14 pm to real turf fan
Thats' what a lot of the trees were Turf. Big old oak type looking trees with pretty large trunks out in the middle of people's yards, just toppled.
While the root bases were large in diameter, they looked to be very shallow, just like you said. Not deep enough to hold down a 50'+ tree and all the mass. Takes just about a tornado to do something like that up here.
While the root bases were large in diameter, they looked to be very shallow, just like you said. Not deep enough to hold down a 50'+ tree and all the mass. Takes just about a tornado to do something like that up here.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:38 pm to Pettifogger
I can’t read the comments to that post on x for some reason. When I click trying to read comments it only gives me a reply box.
I guess it could be real but idk how to check that.
I guess it could be real but idk how to check that.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 7:38 pm to Pettifogger
Harris Faulkner on Fox had a segment that a family of 11 was found dead in NC related to helene. I wasn’t able to watch but just heard that part.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:48 pm to Pettifogger
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This can't be true, can it?
I very, very seriously doubt it.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:51 pm to tiger91
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Harris Faulkner on Fox had a segment that a family of 11 was found dead in NC related to helene. I wasn’t able to watch but just heard that part.
They were killed in the flooding and resulting landslide. A landslide seems ri have taken out several homes in a small area. Thirteen were killed in that little area, including 11 from the same family.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 8:04 am to LegendInMyMind
Posted on 10/18/24 at 8:10 pm to CitizenK
WLOS in Asheville has a lot of stories LINK
Communities getting their water back, but many have mandatory boil warnings.
95 confirmed fatalities in western North Carolina.
Food and water still being distributed.
Some burning of brush allowed with limited height and width and a cleared radius needed.
Some schools restarting.
Communities getting their water back, but many have mandatory boil warnings.
95 confirmed fatalities in western North Carolina.
Food and water still being distributed.
Some burning of brush allowed with limited height and width and a cleared radius needed.
Some schools restarting.
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