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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:20 pm to GetCocky11
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:20 pm to GetCocky11
Local schools will start digging their own well water systems in order to bring school services back online.
“We can’t wait until the [municipal water system] is fully repaired to open our schools,” Asheville City Schools Superintendent Maggie Fehrman said at Buncombe County’s daily briefing.
The process is already underway at Hall Fletcher Elementary School, Fehrman said.
“Yesterday, we did dig a well at Hall Fletcher and we were able to hit groundwater,” she said.
It will take between two and three weeks for Hall Fletcher to be able to use its well water. That will be the case for any school that digs a well.
Within the Asheville City School system, Fehrman expects to dig between eight and ten well systems. Some schools may require more than one well. Each well costs around $100,000 to dig, she said. The school’s capital fund will support these construction efforts, though the school system is hopeful that FEMA will offer reimbursement.
The tentative reopening date for Asheville City Schools is October 28. This is a “target date” and subject to change, Fehrman said. The school system will give 72 hours notice to all students and families before officially reopening.
In order to open, schools will also need porta potties and hand washing stations, which they currently do not have in the scale required. Fehrman said that Asheville City Schools has requested these resources but does not have a timeline for when they will be received.
“We can’t wait until the [municipal water system] is fully repaired to open our schools,” Asheville City Schools Superintendent Maggie Fehrman said at Buncombe County’s daily briefing.
The process is already underway at Hall Fletcher Elementary School, Fehrman said.
“Yesterday, we did dig a well at Hall Fletcher and we were able to hit groundwater,” she said.
It will take between two and three weeks for Hall Fletcher to be able to use its well water. That will be the case for any school that digs a well.
Within the Asheville City School system, Fehrman expects to dig between eight and ten well systems. Some schools may require more than one well. Each well costs around $100,000 to dig, she said. The school’s capital fund will support these construction efforts, though the school system is hopeful that FEMA will offer reimbursement.
The tentative reopening date for Asheville City Schools is October 28. This is a “target date” and subject to change, Fehrman said. The school system will give 72 hours notice to all students and families before officially reopening.
In order to open, schools will also need porta potties and hand washing stations, which they currently do not have in the scale required. Fehrman said that Asheville City Schools has requested these resources but does not have a timeline for when they will be received.
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Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:21 pm to TideWarrior
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South of the parkway is serviced by the Mills River plant which my understanding is fully operational, but a boil water advisory is still in place.
Correct which is 25% of the total serviced houses and businesses, the North Fork processing plant serves 75%.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:30 pm to Obtuse1
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Correct which is 25% of the total serviced houses and businesses, the North Fork processing plant serves 75%.
Not sure about that stat since all the major growth in Asheville and annexation is been in the south. I grew up in Arden and the buffer between Arden and Asheville was Skyland which basically no longer exists due to annexing it.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 7:35 pm to TideWarrior
And FTR there are 3 water plants that serve Asheville and the surrounding area. North Fork in Black Mtn, Bee Tree in Swannanoa, and Mills River near the airport.
Posted on 10/10/24 at 8:48 pm to rds dc
These are just signs of our times!!
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:39 am to Bruco
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request from a lady to remove a pile of brush and sticks from the front of her undamaged house. Really lady? We didn’t move the brush pile. People have real problems
Even in a disaster situation there are "those" people I guess.
Is the rumor that there are too many volunteers accurate?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 7:48 am to Turnblad85
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Is the rumor that there are too many volunteers accurate?
I can’t see how that would be true, there is so much to clean up. Obviously the official efforts are focused on roads, power, schools, hospitals, etc. But so much work is needed on private residences and that’s where groups like Samaritans Purse can fill in.
Would the work be a bit more efficient with a few less well meaning older women, yes, but the older ladies in our group raked leaves and handed out waters and did stuff like that.
There are some tourists driving around pretending to help. Ran into one group of 4, from Louisiana actually, that were in a truck they rented, with no tools or equipment. Not sure what “help” they were providing. But that’s all I saw.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 7:52 am
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:42 am to Bruco
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an’t see how that would be true, there is so much to clean up.
yeah, I guess it makes sense if there's good enough people organization, then the labor can be used somewhere. Seemed like I've seen vids of a number of people standing around not real busy or trying to look busy. That goes back to proper organization though.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 9:05 am to Turnblad85
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Seemed like I've seen vids of a number of people standing around not real busy or trying to look busy. That goes back to proper organization though.
There was definitely some dead time. The organizational challenge is that homeowners need to be at the property and need to sign off on the work. They try to give them some advance notice but can’t always give them a specific day, so after you finish a property, the lead is dialing numbers but the homeowner might be at work or staying out of the area, or just don’t answer, so they move on to the next number until they find someone.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 1:48 pm to Bruco
Rutherford County (Chimney Rock and Lake Lure) put out a press release today stating that all 1,000+ previously listed missing people had been found and are safe and the death count is only 3 (it’s been that for about a week or more).
Boone and Blowing Rock (Watauga County) have formally announced they are ready for tourists and to visit their businesses. The Blue Ridge Parkway which is the biggest tourist attraction in those areas remains closed.
Boone and Blowing Rock (Watauga County) have formally announced they are ready for tourists and to visit their businesses. The Blue Ridge Parkway which is the biggest tourist attraction in those areas remains closed.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 2:21 pm to tigeroarz1
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Boone and Blowing Rock (Watauga County) have formally announced they are ready for tourists and to visit their businesses
seems like a real catch22. Those towns heavily rely on leaf season to fund their coffers and to lose out on an entire season would add insult to injury. On the other, I bet people whose lives don't depend on tourism would rather they give this year a rest.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 3:05 pm to Turnblad85
quote:Yeah, it would be like the covid era all over again. The businesses don’t need that.
seems like a real catch22. Those towns heavily rely on leaf season to fund their coffers and to lose out on an entire season would add insult to injury.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:19 pm to Turnblad85
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seems like a real catch22. Those towns heavily rely on leaf season to fund their coffers and to lose out on an entire season would add insult to injury. On the other, I bet people whose lives don't depend on tourism would rather they give this year a rest.
Given Blowing Rock’s location and topography (lack of a river cutting through town), I am assuming they had fairly minimal damage, at least downtown.
It is a catch22, but tough to tell businesses with no damage not to open and encourage visitors.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:30 pm to Bruco
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Did a volunteer day with Samaritans Purse yesterday
Thank you for your help! Did you see any FEMA people, and if so, what were they doing?
Posted on 10/11/24 at 4:39 pm to BFIV
I did not see any obvious FEMA presence or trucks. There was a fair amount of Military/national guard presence. In particular one large parking lot was a staging area, which seemed to be focused on transferring potable water from commercial tankers to military tankers presumably so the commercial tankers could go back and fill up.
The freeway had a pretty steady flow of military trucks hauling equipment and building supplies.
There were relief stations all over the place with stacks of water and other supplies but they definitely appeared to be operated by churches, charities, or just random people.
The current joke is that there is enough bottled water to recreate the flood (which is fantastic).
But in my little sliver I saw no FEMA
The freeway had a pretty steady flow of military trucks hauling equipment and building supplies.
There were relief stations all over the place with stacks of water and other supplies but they definitely appeared to be operated by churches, charities, or just random people.
The current joke is that there is enough bottled water to recreate the flood (which is fantastic).
But in my little sliver I saw no FEMA
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:06 pm to Bruco
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But in my little sliver I saw no FEMA
For what its worth, the FEMA groups that go in for search and rescue and recovery don't wear anything that says FEMA or drive marked vehicles. They usually have uniforms and gear just like most first responders and their shirts or other clothing is marked with their task force group name/emblem and the state they are from. I've linked a thread that has tracked the deployment of all of the FEMA teams, and in none of the pictures do you see anything that says FEMA.
This post was edited on 10/11/24 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:23 pm to LegendInMyMind
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For what its worth, the FEMA groups that go in for search and rescue and recovery don't wear anything that says FEMA or drive marked vehicles
I did wonder about that. Frankly, I’d be more curious about their response the first 72 hours than now.
I’ll never give the govt a pass, but in terms of overall efforts, both government and civilian, I40 was a non stop parade of equipment, supplies, line trucks, tankers, grocery supply trucks, construction company trucks, etc. Actually made for a decent amount of traffic
On my way back, saw no less than 50 yellow NC DOT trucks headed west.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 5:27 pm to Bruco
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I did wonder about that. Frankly, I’d be more curious about their response the first 72 hours than now.
Here is a thread documenting/tracking their deployment for Helene beginning back on September 24.
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Posted on 10/12/24 at 5:30 am to Bruco
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I can’t see how that would be true, there is so much to clean up
Yeah things have settled in now compared to last week’s circus when I made that comment in here. Makes sense as we get further away from the storm.
City has been adjusting. Most have gotten good at driving through non-functioning traffic lights.
This post was edited on 10/12/24 at 5:39 am
Posted on 10/12/24 at 11:03 am to GetCocky11
They are planning to treat the North Fork Reservoir directly with aluminum sulfate to reduce turbidity. Apparently, it is what they use at the first stage of treatment inside the plant to get the clay particles to combine and fall out of suspension. It is not a novel solution and has been used before on a mass scale.
Asheville Citizen Times
The power companies are still making steady but slow progress on the electricity side. Down to under 40k out in NC. I noticed they have made significant improvements in Mitchell County with now "only ~30%" of connections offline. I don't know how Duke and French Broad EMC are reporting the issues with homes and businesses that aren't there or are unsafe to hookup. Buncombe is down under 14% out. It is a long time without power but at least they are making real progress every day.
Asheville Citizen Times
The power companies are still making steady but slow progress on the electricity side. Down to under 40k out in NC. I noticed they have made significant improvements in Mitchell County with now "only ~30%" of connections offline. I don't know how Duke and French Broad EMC are reporting the issues with homes and businesses that aren't there or are unsafe to hookup. Buncombe is down under 14% out. It is a long time without power but at least they are making real progress every day.
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