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re: Helene - Recovery Begins...Devastating Flash Flooding in Western NC and Eastern TN

Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:10 pm to
This is where I26 collapsed near the border of NC/TN Erwin area.

This post was edited on 9/28/24 at 1:52 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:12 pm to
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I don’t think people in America are going to believe it when everything comes out about lives lost in this stuff in NC. This is seriously bad stuff. Please keep all of these people in your prayers. They’re going to need lots of them and lots of help to rebuild from this devastation. The infrastructure itself is in shambles.

Yeah, and will no doubt fuel the climate change debate. I think, though, what gets lost on many is an understanding of what a given area is actually capable of when it comes to Nature's destruction. The 1916 flood up there is comparable to this, and others before we were ever in the area, I'm sure. Those washes and hollers didn't cut themselves through those mountains. To not keep that reality in mind undermines the position of those who will try to lay this solely at the feet of climate change.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:14 pm to
App State Apts




Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:15 pm to
State telling people to stay away or home

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:18 pm to
No way…. Holy shite. It’s just wiped of the map… horrible. Very sadly I’m sure that’s not the only place that this has happened to.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:20 pm to
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Yeah, and will no doubt fuel the climate change debate. I think, though, what gets lost on many is an understanding of what a given area is actually capable of when it comes to Nature's destruction. The 1916 flood up there is comparable to this, and others before we were ever in the area, I'm sure. Those washes and hollers didn't cut themselves through those mountains. To not keep that reality in mind undermines the position of those who will try to lay this solely at the feet of climate change.


The destruction this time will have more to do with land erosion from all the development and continued expansion of roads and what not into the mountains. So much has changed when traveling into the mountains now where once you could see green everywhere now it giant houses on the side of the mountain that developers continue to ignore the effects it has around it.

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:22 pm to
These landslides move well over 30 mph down the mountain bringing everything with them. In 2004 it was being reported boulders over 16 tons were being rushed with the water so can imagine what that does when its a bridge or house in its way.

Mentioned earlier the sinkhole issue now.





Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
4593 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:24 pm to
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Problem is I40 had that landslide that shut it down just on the other side of Old Fort. Not sure when it will reopen


Morganton is lucky being the east most WNC community. Other ones will need time for road repair
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:25 pm to
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The destruction this time will have more to do with land erosion from all the development and continued expansion of roads and what not into the mountains. So much has changed when traveling into the mountains now where once you could see green everywhere now it giant houses on the side of the mountain that developers continue to ignore the effects it has around it.



Yeah, well uber rich north-easterners with all their bucket loads of cash building those high dollar estate communities on top of the mountains probably had as much to do with it as anything.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:38 pm to
This is Morganton

Posted by tunechi
Member since Jun 2009
10576 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:47 pm to
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Given my experience, I’m thinking the ETR for 95% of the people who can take power is going to be somewhere around 3 weeks


That’s pretty incredible, all things considered. It’s impossible for my small mind to grasp the coordination/planning that has to take place with the number of crews from all over that have to work together
Posted by StanSmith
Member since May 2018
1107 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:49 pm to
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About 8,000 feet elevation


6684ft. I was standing on the summit last Friday.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
45575 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Greenville sc area. Looks like a warzone where I live. May be a week no power


Could you specify where? There’s at least 2 Greenvilles that have been hit hard.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40229 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:55 pm to
Is that where you are??
Posted by DomincDecoco
RIP Ronnie fights Thoth’s loafers
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:57 pm to
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Could you specify where? There’s at least 2 Greenvilles that have been hit hard.


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Greenville sc area


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sc
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 12:58 pm to
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6684ft. I was standing on the summit last Friday.


Could have been you
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
45575 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 1:02 pm to
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This is going to be the issue all over the mountains for the next month or so.


Maybe longer than that. Most places don’t have a winter rainy season but TN/NC does. We’re a sub temperate rainforest so adding more to that is a lot. Fall is usually our driest time and you can see how that’s going.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9228 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 1:03 pm to
It’s not completely gone but did suffer severe damage. The road winds at the bottom of a valley and the village is right along side. It’s a great area

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Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13205 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 1:06 pm to
Someone sent that photo to me. I live in Chapel Hill now.
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