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Health Care Facilities get $37,000 per covid death...

Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:54 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:54 am
At least that's what my wife (nurse, no pics) was informed by her medical care director. And according to him he knows personally of several instances of places cashing in with deaths being reported that arent covid related (shocker for the OT, I know).

Also, he told her that if Joe Blow tests positive and goes back 5 times to get tested afterwards to find out he is negative.... well.. that's 5 positive cases reported.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 6:03 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42797 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 5:58 am to
We know.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
12044 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:00 am to
Elon Musk been saying this on Joe Rogan podcast ... it’s all rigged
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:01 am to
What heroes they all are though

Scamming the taxpayer.

HEROES.

Yeah this virus is an election gambit. All a big scam.

What else is new.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67032 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:05 am to
STFU and put your mask on and get out of those bars and restaurants and do what I tell you to do
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10270 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:06 am to
I thought this has been known for some time now. If anyone dies that happens to have Covid, that’s what they put as the cause of death. Profit
Posted by eScott
Member since Oct 2008
11376 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:09 am to
quote:

my wife (nurse, no pics)


Has nudes on reddit
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20431 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:17 am to
Yes. My father was in the hospital last month for a cardiac condition and they wanted it to be COVID so bad they couldn’t stand it. They tested him four or five times. Each time negative yet they kept him in the COVID ward the entire time and wouldn’t allow family to visit. Infuriating.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
13267 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:22 am to
quote:

he knows personally of several instances of places cashing in with deaths being reported that arent covid related (shocker for the OT, I know).


bullshite!
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26701 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:30 am to
quote:

STFU and put your mask on and get out of those bars and restaurants and do what I tell you to do



Some OT cuck just beat off reading this
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11363 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:34 am to
They for sure have a great incentive to make sure the uninsured meet the requirements to get reimbursed.

If you want to really get into the weeds, try looking up via cdc what defines a probable death from Covid which is later determined based on what Is listed as reason of death even if Covid isn’t.

You come in with a cough, shortness of breath, difficulty breathing, or pneumonia and die with “no alternative more likely diagnosis” ..you had Covid.

Come in with sore throat and headache die and had close contact to somebody with Covid or somebody with a cough that came close to somebody with Covid 14 days prior..you had Covid.

Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22611 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:12 am to
This also just shows how screwed up our healthcare system is in general.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11843 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:18 am to
Healthcare systems always follow the incentives. If hospitals got paid an extra $37,000 if a COVID patient was released on the 5th day then 99% of COVID patients would be released on Day 5.
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:27 am to
Did Trump set something up to pay them that? Our regional hospitals are sucking wind. Where is it published and how do we get in?

Only funds we can expect to receive are earlier CMS payments - nothing additional or supplementary. Those were 'smoke and mirror' promises.
Posted by Sam Waterston
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2016 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:36 am to
The controversy surrounding reporting who died of covid notwithstanding, that’s really not that much money. ICU room alone is 1-2k per night before meds, providers, etc. Ballpark 6-8k/d if they’re not using the most expensive newer experimental meds. Ventilator: 1-2k/d. Covid pts don’t just show up and due within hours of arrival, they’re usually there 6-14 days.

If we’re conservative: 6-8k/d x 10d is roughly double the payout of 37k. Factor in the population, uninsured, etc and the hospital is Losing out on more than it’s gaining
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
18012 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:44 am to
Had a guy in my town who’s father had a heart attack recently and passed. The hospital paperwork noted a COVID death, the son is livid.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:55 am to
I'd have to search for the article about the New Orleans convention center hospital expenses. If I remember correctly the government paid $876k per patient (not per death, per patient). They were paying nurses $245 per hour and they were guaranteed a 7 day/ 84 hour work week, with over half of that at time and 1/2.
Posted by Fat Batman
Gotham City, NJ
Member since Oct 2019
1628 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 7:55 am to
quote:

If we’re conservative: 6-8k/d x 10d is roughly double the payout of 37k. Factor in the population, uninsured, etc and the hospital is Losing out on more than it’s gaining


I have no idea if the 37k thing is true since OP didn't back up his claim at all. However, are you trying to say a hospital has no incentive to collect $37k versus $0 on a patient they have to treat either way? If so, you are dumb as frick.
Posted by Sam Waterston
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
2016 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 8:02 am to
Lol no, collect it as much as you can and I can’t imagine any system turning that down, but in the end it’s not necessarily some net gain, just less of a loss.

Still doesn’t make labeling anyone a covid death because of a positive test if they died from a heart attack
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59355 posts
Posted on 7/2/20 at 8:08 am to
I consider myself lucky enough to know nothing about long term hospital stays but how is being hooked to a ventilator a 1-2k cost per day? Or is that what’s billed?
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