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re: Heads up St Francisville/New Roads/Zachary… a $12b data center is being built in your area
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:13 am to ell_13
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:13 am to ell_13
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the nuclear industry is looking at putting SMRs (Small Module Reactors) at current Nuclear plant locations where the infrastructure already exists.
How long do these take to stand up?
Riverbend only has one reactor. I think they just renewed the permit for another 25 years. But there have been plans to add another reactor in the past but they never executed them.
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:08 am to clamdip
quote:Thats exactly what I’m saying. These SMRs have not been built in the US yet and are only speculated about. The last two classic-style nukes (Vogtle 3 and 4) built took 15 years and costs overran by about $30 billion. “Talk” of more reactors has stalled outside of the SMRs which can be built faster and cheaper yet produce 1/4 of the power. They’re the future, yes, but not the near future.
Are you trying to say this data center wasn't attracted by the nuclear plant being a couple miles away through the woods? Wtf. You're clueless.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:20 am to Granola
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Look for the state to develop a few more mainly in the Lake Charles area
cameron... starts soon
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:21 am to monsterballads
awesome 
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:23 am to Teufelhunden
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Careful what you wish for.
I'm not wishing for any further development in the parish, I'm fine with the data center because it won't be adding to traffic with a high number of employees once completed. As another poster said there are maybe a dozen people living within 3 miles of where it's being built.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:24 am to crewdepoo
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These data centers and power plans are going to drain our aquifers and we'll be drinking river water soon. But at least we have jobs.
surely something that close to the river will just use water from there
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:07 am to Loup
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I'm not wishing for any further development in the parish
Have to love Louisiana, something that could be positive for the area and diversify the economics of the state and “nope, not here I like it just the way it is”.
Never change and never get better, well done.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:07 pm to Joe_Dirte
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surely something that close to the river will just use water from there
That would make sense. What do they need water for? Cooling?
Would that not be a closed system with recirculated fluid?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:12 pm to member12
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That would make sense. What do they need water for? Cooling?
Would that not be a closed system with recirculated fluid?
The racks with the CPUs are water cooled and it's a closed system. The power plants use water for their steam turbines, but there are some losses in that process, so make-up water would be needed.
IIRC, River Bend nuclear plant buys it's de-ionized water and has it trucked in. Their water needs are for emergency cooling.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:52 pm to member12
These data centers are going up everywhere. Is this a a digital real estate bubble?
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:28 pm to goofball
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Is this a a digital real estate bubble?
If they can startup that quickly, they can close that quickly. I view it as a windfall, not a long term source of revenue.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 6:50 pm to Btrtigerfan
Nuclear plants make steam, too, right? The generator is spun by a steam turbine. Hard to imagine trucking in enough DI water for that. Maybe their losses are small enough.
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:05 pm to turkish
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Nuclear plants make steam, too, right? The generator is spun by a steam turbine. Hard to imagine trucking in enough DI water for that. Maybe their losses are small enough.
Their losses in the steam cycle are minimal. Make steam, spin a turbine, condense steam, rinse and repeat.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 7:22 pm to goofball
Supposed to be 1 trillion invested in data centers the next 5 years in The US. One chat gpt query uses 10x the computing power of a Google search.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:08 pm to member12
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That would make sense. What do they need water for? Cooling? Would that not be a closed system with recirculated fluid?
The closed system is cooled by another medium. For small data centers, it can be HVAC with air cooled systems. This will have to be cooled via evaporative cooling to meet heat transfer needs. It is a decent haul from river to the proposed site, it will be interesting to see what supplies the cooling tower water.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:27 pm to MikeD
Do you know exactly where the site is? There’s a 6xx acre parcel that stretches from 964 up to just east of the Audubon bridge. Is that it?
This post was edited on 12/10/24 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 12/10/24 at 8:29 pm to turkish
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Do you know exactly where the site is? There’s a 6xx acre parcel that stretches from 964 up to just east of the Audubon bridge. Is that it?
Yeah that’s it. South east of bridge. Very close to it.
Posted on 12/10/24 at 9:28 pm to goofball
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These data centers are going up everywhere. Is this a a digital real estate bubble?
I would venture to say yes. These companies are betting BIG, like fricking YUUUUUUUGE on AI transforming life as we know it. The new data centers are being built to accomodate the computing demand they anticipate with the wide adoption of AI
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:31 am to CFDoc
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Not many details out there about them.
They sometimes lease server space and digital infrastructure - which is like most data centers actually. It may not be fully “owner operated” like META, X, or AWS centers are.
There are a pile of these tenant data centers in northern Virginia for some reason. They tend to seek out areas with excess utility capacity so I guess that part of the country had that.
This is going to be great for the economy in those communities close to the Audubon bridge. And West Fel will have a nice tax revenue boost. But I’d be a little concerned over utility rate hikes and the area’s inability to attract new industry down the road if they can’t stand up new power plant capacity very quickly. There are a lot of rumors about another similar development very close to this one - also near power plants.
I am guessing they are going to more consistently kick start Big Cajun 1 power plant (the little has one) and maybe even convert that last coal unit at Big Cajun 2 over to gas. Hopefully Riverbend eventually gets a second reactor one day that can keep that power station operating into the 2050s and beyond.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 6:36 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 6:39 am to sec13rowBBseat28
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This might be the deal that saves The Bluffs.
Maybe it will help. I could see how this would sell houses in Zachary, West Feliciana, and Pointe Coupee to power plant workers. The Bluffs area always felt so isolated to me but it’s fairly close.
Considering the emissions of most major industrial developments along the river in south Louisiana…they could do worse. Nothing is really around where they want to build this except the Audubon Bridge. It can be masked very easily by the trees that are already there. With 50-100 workers it won’t draw that much traffic once construction is complete. No real stacks or air pollution from the data center itself. There will be security and lighting but otherwise it will be pretty quiet and boring in the immediate area.
It’s not as good as a battery plant for Tesla or an automotive assembly plant from an economic impact perspective but New Roads and St Francisville are pretty small towns. This will be big for them. . I also think New Roads is also getting a geotextile plant so they may be close to reaching a saturation point with qualified local labor anyways.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 6:45 am
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