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Have you ever experienced "arrival fallacy"?

Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:09 am
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:09 am
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The term “arrival fallacy” was coined by Tal Ben-Shahar, who has a PhD from Harvard University in Organizational Behavior. Ben-Shahar is an author and is well known for teaching lectures on happiness at Columbia University.

According to "The New York Times," Ben-Shahar defines the arrival fallacy as a popular illusion that achieving a certain goal will lead to happiness. He mentions that the arrival fallacy has been experienced by celebrities and other highly successful people who end up experiencing mental illness and substance abuse even after achieving their dreams.1

Ben-Shahar says that often people who experience the arrival fallacy start off unhappy, and reach for a goal that is supposed to cure their sadness. When they find that success doesn’t fix their unhappiness, not only are they disappointed, but may end up feeling hopeless and depressed. Often, the arrival fallacy only makes unhappiness and mental states worse.4


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Also known as "gold medal syndrome":

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old medal syndrome is the phrase used to describe the feeling that many athletes experience post competition. The illnesses and emotions experienced have been described as: Depression, anxiety, loneliness, low self-esteem, emptiness, and loss of self-worth. Don’t let the phrase fool you, this is not restricted to only gold medallists. Depending on which article or study you read, up to 40% of athletes experience the syndrome in some way.


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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:13 am to
I haven't heard of it with that specific term, but I've read/consumed a lot of personal development content and they always warn people about having this one specific goal for this reason. Humans are built to keep going and going and going. If you have the mindset to set, and reach, goals, you have to just have a set of them lined up to move on once you've reached the goal.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57261 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:13 am to
This happens to me every time I take a dump
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63229 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:26 am to
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they always warn people about having this one specific goal for this reason


I would imagine that the bigger the goal, though, the less one has the ability to think about or participate in other goals. For those who dared to commit their lives to accomplishing some of the greatest feats in history, the comedown had to have been crushing.
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
1291 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:27 am to
This is true. Whatever it’s called. I’ve been on both sides.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14164 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:27 am to
Welcome to your mid life crisis. Go buy a Vette.
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
4883 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:32 am to
I avoid achieving goals for this very reason.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18799 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:34 am to
I thought this would be about women faking orgasms
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27046 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:36 am to
100% a real thing and people need to be cognizant by thinking about “and then what?” after reaching their goals.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53104 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:38 am to
I believe a large portion of the left has turned on each other with Trump out of office. I think there are some on that side that deep down want him back to rail against.

It has to be really hard for athletes after they retire. All that glory and camaraderie is gone in an instant. Some can keep it going in the coaching, media, or local celebrity circuit, though.
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 10:44 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Member since May 2012
55557 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:39 am to
success is a journey, not a destination

I find it a little odd when people call themselves "successful" unless it's so undeniable because they're a self-made hundred millionaire with a hot wife and 4 good kids (and no divorces or anything like that)
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123954 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:41 am to
Is that when you don't come?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260058 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:42 am to
"Destination happiness" was what we used to call it.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13897 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:43 am to
Women do this with relationships. It's "I'm not happy. Why are YOU not making ME happy?". Then they move on to the next dude and the cycle starts over again.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
65538 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:43 am to
Tal Ben-Shahar describes what chance he had of getting laid without directly paying for it.

Posted by Scuttle But
Member since Nov 2023
1301 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:43 am to
Life's about the journey man, ya gotta dig it.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72895 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:43 am to
People are conditioned from birth in this country to believe that externals are the goal. Job, house, wife, family, experiences. It’s all about the internal spiritual journey. And I am certainly not talking about religion. That keeps you focused on an external savior. You are here to save yourself. Nothing outside of you will give you lasting happiness or peace. It’s the big lie that you are sold and the vast majority fall for it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260058 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:47 am to
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People are conditioned from birth in this country to believe that externals are the goal. Job, house, wife, family, experiences


Corporate type rationality permeates every fabric of society, and its incredibly boring.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1141 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:48 am to
Everytime I've met a goal I'm happy for like 3 days. Then I usually get more depressed than ever.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260058 posts
Posted on 12/24/23 at 10:49 am to
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Then I usually get more depressed than ever.


Its an addiction. First few times you get rewarded, then you spend the rest of your life chasing the reward, which no longer comes.

We're all just drones chasing ghosts.
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