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re: Has there ever been a scintilla of evidence of what happens after you die?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:45 pm to Slippy
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:45 pm to Slippy
People reporting events that there’s no way they could’ve know and that were happening contemporaneously with their near death, as they’re being revived on a hospital table as they float between fading away and coming back for example, are rather intriguing.
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:48 pm to Slippy
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I'm a Catholic, and I'm keenly interested in the afterlife. But I'll be the first to admit I don't have a fricking clue.
I'm a Southern Baptist. The film "Heaven is for Real" gave me chills.
I guess either you go to heaven or you don't. Theoretically, salvation is eternal but a "saved" person can kill a bunch of babies and blow up a school of children and still go to heaven.
It may be a sin but that's bullshite to me. Not to be un-Christian but how can that be?
I ask for forgiveness for saying this.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:49 pm to Darth_Vader
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I don’t remember shite.
You didn't do it right. You should probably try again.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:50 pm to ThinePreparedAni
I don't know exactly how to interpret your details but interesting to think about anyway, especially the last part about reincarnation. I sort of believe in the Christianity story. I sort of believe we're in a simulation. I'm starting to wonder if some of us are actually a form of AI that never had a 'human' body. I enjoy thinking about a lot of things that I may not believe with absolute certainty.
I once had a dream long ago that I was sitting in a room looking down at some sort of monitor (in middle of room) and preparing to go on my next journey. A woman hugged me and was telling me how much she was going to miss me. I told her we'd meet again soon enough. I think the dream was before I met my wife. In real life, there were many strange coincidences since we 'almost' met many times before we actually did. Almost to the point of being mathematically impossible that we'd cross paths so many times without speaking to each other (yet I remembered each time, even though I'm not always very observant to surroundings). Many times I've wondered, how much there is to know...
I once had a dream long ago that I was sitting in a room looking down at some sort of monitor (in middle of room) and preparing to go on my next journey. A woman hugged me and was telling me how much she was going to miss me. I told her we'd meet again soon enough. I think the dream was before I met my wife. In real life, there were many strange coincidences since we 'almost' met many times before we actually did. Almost to the point of being mathematically impossible that we'd cross paths so many times without speaking to each other (yet I remembered each time, even though I'm not always very observant to surroundings). Many times I've wondered, how much there is to know...
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:58 pm to Slippy
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what happens after you die?
At the hospital, we give your bed to another patient.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 4:58 pm to Slippy
I croaked when I was 2 in the ER but I don't remember anything.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:03 pm to Tempratt
Meet me at sonic if you wanna find out
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:31 pm to Darth_Vader
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Whatever we think happens after we die is based on nothing but pure faith. Christians have faith in what they think happens. So do Muslims, Jews, and all other religions. But just as all these religions have faith in what happens after death, the same is true for atheists and agnostics as well.
Everything you said is true except the part about agnostics. Agnostics by definition say they don't know what happens. There is no faith involved in that.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:36 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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work with a guy who was legally dead for 20 minutes. He said nothing happened.
The definition of death is vague. The most definitive proof would be lack of brain activity. I can promise you the guy you work with wasn't brain dead for 20 min. Maybe his heart stopped, but that's not death. I don't think anyone that has died has ever been alive again. There have been plenty of people who have been on the brink and back
Posted on 6/12/19 at 5:56 pm to Sidicous
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Eh, not really.
...divine power that has given us ALL things that pertain to LIFE and Godliness... 2 Peter 1:3
It does NOT say we are to know about Death.
Well, there is also John 11:25-26:
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Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”
So the Bible teaches that our souls live on after the death of the body. As a Christian, where your soul ends up (i.e., heaven or hell) is all you are supposed to be concerned with, not what heaven or hell is like. All we are to know is heaven is eternal paradise and hell is eternal damnation.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:26 pm to Higgysmalls
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Meet me at sonic if you wanna find out
That makes no sense.
BTW, which location?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:50 pm to Cowboyfan89
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. As a Christian, where your soul ends up (i.e., heaven or hell) is all you are supposed to be concerned with, not what heaven or hell is like
Don't ask questions or use your brain at all, the true Christian way
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 6:51 pm
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:05 pm to Slippy
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"God gave me this note."
Well, there was that Moses guy. He brought back a 'note' from God. Twice.
oh, and before you say "He's not proof, just another Bible character",
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Manetho, the 3rd century BC Egyptian priest and historian who recorded the history of Egypt into Greek to be placed in the Library of Alexandria, included the story of Moses in his Aegyptiaca (History of Egypt). According to Manetho, Moses lived at the time of Amenhotep III and his son Akhenaten (1405-1367 BC). Manetho also indicated that the Israelites’ Exodus took place in the reign of a succeeding king whose name was Ramses.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:12 pm to Slippy
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Has there ever been a scintilla of evidence of what happens after you die?
I've been to the other side twice. But I'm not gonna talk about it with a bunch of dweebs online.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:22 pm to sacrathetic
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Go experience ayahuasca and you'll have all the evidence you need.
spoken from experience?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:43 pm to hubertcumberdale
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Don't ask questions or use your brain at all, the true Christian way
Well that's not true, but go ahead and be a blockhead.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:28 pm to Slippy
My two cents, we don't have any more proof that there is no afterlife than we do that there is an afterlife. So that's a draw.
However, we do accept that energy cannot be created or destroyed. So what happens to that energy that is our "life force", so to speak? I can't imagine that it retains our memories in any way shape or form. In fact, I believe all of our memories are retained in our brain and die with our brain. But is it possible that there is some special form of energy that can retain some vestige of our former self? Call it our operating system. Maybe just enough that we are (in some very different way from what we consider living) able to be aware of our situation after death? No pain, emotional or physical, because we left all of that behind with our corpse. But enough consciousness or awareness to allow us to experience our existence as pure energy? I think that would qualify as an "afterlife", though not in the way that many people want to believe it takes place. And not in any way hinged to how we lived our life.
However, we do accept that energy cannot be created or destroyed. So what happens to that energy that is our "life force", so to speak? I can't imagine that it retains our memories in any way shape or form. In fact, I believe all of our memories are retained in our brain and die with our brain. But is it possible that there is some special form of energy that can retain some vestige of our former self? Call it our operating system. Maybe just enough that we are (in some very different way from what we consider living) able to be aware of our situation after death? No pain, emotional or physical, because we left all of that behind with our corpse. But enough consciousness or awareness to allow us to experience our existence as pure energy? I think that would qualify as an "afterlife", though not in the way that many people want to believe it takes place. And not in any way hinged to how we lived our life.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 8:54 pm to Slippy
Good question. There are answers. People have seen the other side for a minute and came back to tell. Maybe you shouldn't worry about it and just ignore it? Roll the dice, maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. The only problem with that is if you're wrong and don't believe in God and the afterlife and ignore His commands, you in trouble. If you've lived righteous and you're wrong, you haven't lost out.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 9:00 pm to League Champs
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Manetho, the 3rd century BC Egyptian priest and historian who recorded the history of Egypt into Greek to be placed in the Library of Alexandria, included the story of Moses in his Aegyptiaca (History of Egypt). According to Manetho, Moses lived at the time of Amenhotep III and his son Akhenaten (1405-1367 BC). Manetho also indicated that the Israelites’ Exodus took place in the reign of a succeeding king whose name was Ramses.
You should do a little more research on this and Manetho and his books which no longer exist.
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The earliest known mention of the Aegyptiaca is by the Jewish historian Josephus in his work Contra Apionem ("Against Apion"), which can be dated after AD 94. Before this, no writer whose work survives mentions the Aegyptiaca in at least 300 years; this raises a serious question and legitimate doubt as to its real date and authorship. The notion that an official and authoritative history of Egypt composed in Greek at the request of Ptolemy II Philadelphus could go unnoticed or ignored by several professional scholars and Alexandrian librarians for centuries until Josephus is hardly credible.
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