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Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:57 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:Eh, not really.
Well yeah, the Bible.
...divine power that has given us ALL things that pertain to LIFE and Godliness... 2 Peter 1:3
It does NOT say we are to know about Death.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:58 pm to Sidicous
quote:
Eh, not really.
...divine power that has given us ALL things that pertain to LIFE and Godliness... 2 Peter 1:3
It does NOT say we are to know about Death.
If you believe you never die so there's that
Posted on 6/12/19 at 12:58 pm to Slippy
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Has there ever been a scintilla of evidence of what happens after you die?
Remember what it was like before you were born?
That’s what it’s gonna be like.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:00 pm to Philzilla2k
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How do you know?
Because you know it’s true as well.
I’m sorry, but I don’t. So I ask you again. How do you know you cease to exist when you die? What evidence do you base your opinion (it is still just your opinion in case you didn’t realize) on that you know for a fact we cease to exist after we die?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:00 pm to beerJeep
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Remember what it was like before you were born?
That’s what it’s gonna be like.
I’ll ask you the same question I asked the other guy...
How do you know?
(I love when I ask people questions they can’t answer so they just downvote my post instead. Tells me I rustled their jimmies)
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:01 pm to Philzilla2k
quote:The smartest people in the world do not know if it is true
Because you know it’s true as well.
We have a very shallow surface level understanding of consciousness.Scientists know about as much about the universe as they do consciousness. We have no idea where consciousness and awareness comes from, what circumstances are necessary for it to exist, where it can exist...pretty much every substantial question about consciousness has no definitive answer
Push thoughts about religion and heaven and hell aside. There are more possibilities to "life" after death than battling religious philosophies
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:03 pm to biglego
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My grandma was cremated so there’s strong evidence she became ashes
Did she become ashes, or did the box that she was cremated in become ashes?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:03 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
How do you know
You died didn’t you?
quote:
I don’t remember shite.
What do you remember from before you were born?
Check mate.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:06 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Well yeah, the Bible.
See, this is exactly the kind of of response I fully expected but was trying to avoid.
Missed my point entirely.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:06 pm to Slippy
Watch "The OA" on Netflix. It's about near death experiences and what happens when you die. None of it is proven or even close to factual but a good watch.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:07 pm to beerJeep
not remembering anything immediately after you die does not prove consciousness does not continue after death. There are obviously switches that can turn consciousness on and off. Additionally there are people that die that do remember things. I should see no reason why their account should be taken with more a grain of salt. Additionally complete memory is not a requirement for active consciousness. So the same thing can be said for before you were born.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:08 pm to beerJeep
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You died didn’t you?
I flatlined for a few minutes from internal hemorrhaging.
quote:
What do you remember from before you were born?
Check mate.
Is it though? I lost consciousness before I flatlined. There are other people though who have died and had very different experiences than I did. How do you account for their experiences?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:09 pm to Slippy
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Missed my point entirely.
Those who "come back" are required to sign a non disclosure agreement stating they saw nothing and know nothing.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:12 pm to stapuffmarshy
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Those who "come back" are required to sign a non disclosure agreement stating they saw nothing and know nothing.
No they’re not
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:13 pm to sacrathetic
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Go experience ayahuasca
Haha! Nooooo thanks ... I'd rather wait and only die once.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:14 pm to Darth_Vader
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How do you account for their experiences?
A desire for greater understanding. Attention seekers. People who are afraid of the void of nothingness so they convince themselves otherwise. People looking to be “right” so they contrive something that “only they” and a few “others like them” experience so they can just say nope, you’re wrong. I saw it. With no real tangible proof of what they saw/experienced.
We came from nothing. We will return to nothing.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:16 pm to beerJeep
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A desire for greater understanding. Attention seekers. People who are afraid of the void of nothingness so they convince themselves otherwise. People looking to be “right” so they contrive something that “only they” and a few “others like them” experience so they can just say nope, you’re wrong. I saw it. With no real tangible proof of what they saw/experienced.
So you're accusing them of lying. What facts do you base your accusation on?
quote:
We came from nothing. We will return to nothing.
How do you know? You’ve still not answered this.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:20 pm to Slippy
quote:
a scintilla of evidence
Sounds like you're a lawyer, but then you say
quote:
objective evidence
Seems like you mean empirical evidence. Testimony in court from a first-hand observer (the person who claims to be "brought back") would be admissible to prove the matter asserted.
What you're looking for is video or DNA evidence of an afterlife. I'm pretty sure that's unlikely, which may explain why they call religion "faith."
Posted on 6/12/19 at 1:20 pm to Darth_Vader
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So you're accusing them of lying. What facts do you base your accusation on?
What facts do you base your acceptance of their word as truth?
We’re both speculating.
quote:
How do you know? You’ve still not answered this.
It’s the most logical answer. We live. We die. The world moves on.
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