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Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:33 pm to Corinthians420
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i could argue we were more free before the Patriot Act
Good point. I stand corrected. I agree with you
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:35 pm to Brian Wilson
Are you the smartest person that you know?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:41 pm to purpgoldblood
Would/did you prescribe the covid shot?
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:42 pm to Jim Rockford
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The politics just gets tedious. He needs to get back to the alien stuff
I loved his Trump interview and Vance may be just as good. But overall I like his health and fitness interviews best.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:44 pm to Paige
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Being able to say the n word? Actually owning slaves?
I was just thinking there weren’t enough idiots on here for an election season. I stand corrected.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:48 pm to Tusk Till Dawn
Not touching that one
And again didn’t mean to get so hostile just lunch beers talking mostly
I think ivermectin is a great drug
What I really had an issue with was the people getting animal labeled products and taking them dt something heard online
It’s just not an innocuous medication and can have neurotoxicity if taken at too high a dose which is easy to do when you are working w w product designed for a 2000 lb animal
And again didn’t mean to get so hostile just lunch beers talking mostly
I think ivermectin is a great drug
What I really had an issue with was the people getting animal labeled products and taking them dt something heard online
It’s just not an innocuous medication and can have neurotoxicity if taken at too high a dose which is easy to do when you are working w w product designed for a 2000 lb animal
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:49 pm to purpgoldblood
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purpgoldblood
Your combination of stupidity and hubris is a danger to humans and animals. Would you like me to give you a tutorial on how to use PubMed?
You say it causes blindness "all the time". In a review of 413 cases of poisoning in cats and dogs, the incidence of Ivermectin involvement was 0.5%.
You say it has never been studied against viruses. Took me about 5 seconds on PubMed to find that you're wrong. 2022: Ivermectin Inhibits the Replication of Usutu Virus In Vitro
There are trials of it with covid showing lower viral load. But sure, there haven't been any studies on Ivermectin and viruses.
Nature 2017: Today, ivermectin is continuing to surprise and excite scientists, offering more and more promise to help improve global public health by treating a diverse range of diseases, with its unexpected potential as an antibacterial, antiviral and anti-cancer agent being particularly extraordinary....
Perhaps more than any other drug, ivermectin is a drug for the world’s
poor. For most of this century, some 250 million people have been
taking it annually to combat two of the world’s most devastating,
disfiguring, debilitating and stigma-inducing diseases, Onchocerciasis
and Lymphatic filariasis.
You say this drug was developed for horses and you are wrong.
Proc Jpn Acad Ser B Phys Biol Sci. 2011
In reality, ivermectin’s role in human medicine effectively began in April 1978 inside the Merck company, several years before the drug emerged on the Animal Health market. The highly potent bioactivity of a fermentation broth of an organism isolated by the Kitasato Institute in Tokyo, which had been sent to Merck’s research laboratories in 1974, was first identified in 1975. The active compounds were identified by the international multidisciplinary collaborative team as the avermectins, with the subsequently-refined ivermectin derivative being designated the optimal compound for development. Merck scientists, under the direction of Dr William Campbell, found that the drug was active against a wide range of parasites of livestock and companion animals.10) The informed foresight of a Merck researcher, Ms. L.S. Blair, resulted in the discovery that the drug was effective against skin-dwelling microfilariae of Onchocerca cervicalis in horses. These did not actually cause clinical disease and so the finding was of little commercial significance. However, O. cervicalis belongs to the same genus as O. volvulus, and upon reading the experimental reports, Dr Campbell surmised that there might be some merit in testing for impact against the latter. In July 1978, he sent ivermectin (as a coded sample), together with the results of the horse trial, to the TDR-supported tertiary cattle screen in Australia. The results, obtained in November 1978, showed that ivermectin was “highly effective in preventing patent infections with both O. gibsoni and O. gutturosa”. This reinforced Campbell’s growing belief that ivermectin would be effective against human onchocerciasis. Consequently, in December, he proposed to the Merck Laboratories’ Research Management Council that “an avermectin could become the first means of preventing the blindness associated with onchocerciasis” and that “discussions be held with representatives of WHO to determine the most appropriate approach to the problem—from the medical, political and commercial points of view”.27,28) Senior management approved the lead taken by Campbell and research funding to investigate the potential use of ivermectin in humans was approved by Dr Roy Vagelos, then President of the research laboratories.
Like many drugs, such as Viagra, serendipity played a role but it's clear that its genesis was not from a desire to medicate horses. That is simply where the data and the results took them on the most direct route. Took me just a couple minutes to find this stuff on PubMed.
And you say it's not "safe", but its safety is one of its most important qualities, again from 2011:
Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided that they have had some very basic, appropriate training.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:52 pm to purpgoldblood
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It’s also a very risky drug to just try, far more risky than mRNA vaccines
You are beyond stupid for f you actually believe this.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:57 pm to Clark14
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What makes this guy feel so self important that someone should have to rearrange their schedule and travel just to appear on an obscure podcast?
She had enough time for "Call Her Daddy"
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:58 pm to Paige
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Being able to say the n word?
This may come as a shock to a whore like yourself, but you can still legally say the N-Bomb.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:59 pm to SoFla Tideroller
And Club Shay Shay
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:59 pm to POTUS2024
Thanks for the kind words
It has never been labeled as an anti viral for people. It has never been studied as an anti viral in people- only in vitro as your linked material references
As I said in another post it has only been looked at in vitro and never in a human study and the concentrations used in vitro were far higher than the tissue levels achieved when the drug is given orally at labeled anti parasitic doses(as in the ones considered safe)
The blindness is dose dependent so when people use it for certain reasons(heartworm prevention for dogs) it is usually well tolerated but when used at the higher doses as prescribed for démodectic mange blindness is for more common than 0.5%.
As I said in post above the concern is that many people using ivermectin during Covid WERE getting it from feed stores and these products have extremely high concentrations making them risky to use especially without direction of a physician.
It has never been labeled as an anti viral for people. It has never been studied as an anti viral in people- only in vitro as your linked material references
As I said in another post it has only been looked at in vitro and never in a human study and the concentrations used in vitro were far higher than the tissue levels achieved when the drug is given orally at labeled anti parasitic doses(as in the ones considered safe)
The blindness is dose dependent so when people use it for certain reasons(heartworm prevention for dogs) it is usually well tolerated but when used at the higher doses as prescribed for démodectic mange blindness is for more common than 0.5%.
As I said in post above the concern is that many people using ivermectin during Covid WERE getting it from feed stores and these products have extremely high concentrations making them risky to use especially without direction of a physician.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 6:59 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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She had enough time for "Call Her Daddy"
Dude probably thinks that’s a bigger audience than Rogan. Calling JRE an obscure podcast is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:01 pm to ShoeBang
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This country has never been more free than it is today. Fact. You cannot logically or rationally say otherwise.
After Covid and 9/11? No the country has been more free than it is today and it was the 90s.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:02 pm to Cotten
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Those that approved Remdesivir for clinical use should be publicly executed by hanging. It’s fricking poison.
It, the ventilators, and lack of any preliminary treatment is what murdered my uncle. Those people are murderers.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:03 pm to purpgoldblood
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Bring the n
Racist
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:03 pm to jimmy the leg
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You are beyond stupid for f you actually believe this.
He’s just bargaining with himself on the number of people he gave that to. If he realizes that ivermectin, HCQ, and monoclonal antibodies were the cure all along and not one of his patients would have died, then he might kill himself.
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:04 pm to Clark14
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What makes this guy feel so self important that someone should have to rearrange their schedule and travel just to appear on an obscure podcast?
Obscure podcast?
The Trump episode of that "obscure podcast" has gotten 40 million views in four days.
Try not to be an idiot.
This post was edited on 10/30/24 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 10/30/24 at 7:04 pm to purpgoldblood
Just curious, did you study biology or chemistry in college? Phd in either field?
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